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I’m in therapy and I’d still like a month away on a remotely uninhabited island.
Therapy won’t make the world they have to go back to any better than it was before.
Well, to be fair, neither will getting lost at sea
No, but on a remote uninhabited island you can pretend the bullshit doesn’t exist.
It’s incredibly hard to delude yourself when something is in front of yourself face. Although this is apparently a flaw in me, as most people seem perfectly capable of it.
Assuming you’re rescued. But there’s a chance you’ll get to die without answering another passive aggressive email…ahhh. one can dream.
Being lost at sea for 30 days is the therapy
Too bad he got rescued a day early then.
That last day is where it really sticks/integrates long-term. Too bad.
Dude was out at sea for a month and tried to find a positive from it and peeps decided to be sexist about it
sexist
Jesus Christ, grow up.
How was that observation immature?
Username seems ironic for a bigoted asshole, be better comrade.
Oh I’m bigoted? Lol ok bud. Against whom exactly
Their point might be that “sexism” is misogyny, that negative attitudes toward men aren’t equivalent to the very deliberate oppression of women, that the enforcers of men’s oppression tend to be men. Comments like that from the post aren’t nice and I don’t care to defend it, but it’s somewhat equivalent to a marginalized person making a snarky comment at those who benefit from their oppression, calling it sexist isn’t accurate if we’re discussing systemic oppression (which generally we are whenever women come up).
That said I don’t know this user, for all I know they’re just reactionary lol
Going to therapy?
… in this economy and healthcare system?
And now you’re on a list for RFK Jr’s camps
Therapy doesn’t fix reality.
I mean for some it can help them accept and process reality a little better.
it is no sign of good health to be properly adapted to a profoundly sick society
It helps to survive. You can still critizice the fucked system while suffering less from it. Often that’s the best one can do.
It has nonzero value for many but that doesn’t elevate it to the status that we should shake our heads at people who don’t go. Like this tweet does.
And you become part of what makes it sick if you don’t have they tools to develop a deeper self awareness. I was profoundly skeptical of therapy for a long time, and also thought myself very self aware. But with a good therapist you can uncover enormous blind spots and generally improve how you treat yourself an others. Society is built by those within it.
I think the point is that the reality of the world is currently shit and it sucks so it was nice to forget about that for a bit. It wasn’t that he had some trauma he could ignore.
Yes, but the world has always been shit
The 90’s were a far better period for America
1950s wre a far better period for america. Entire world economy& infrastructure destroyed except for america
Sure, but then you have the cold war fears from the soviet union, which obviously were not there for 90% of the 90’s
The sea doesn’t bill by the hour.
The copay is ‘can you find a coconut today?’
I have been and still am in therapy for a couple of years now. I would still like to be lost at sea to get such a break. (Provided I can easily survive that.)
You should mention these feelings to your therapist for some fresh content.
My therapist already knows. Not much we can currently do about it. There is also plenty to deal with so this is also conparably low on the priority list.
Sounds more like a break from a crushing capitalist system.
This was in the context of COVID:
Nanjikana said he has taken some positives away from the experience, such as a forced break from the chaos of a global pandemic.
“I had no idea what was going on while I was out there. I didn’t hear about Covid or anything else,” he said. “I look forward to going back home but I guess it was a nice break from everything.”
The comment says a lot about what some people think therapy is for, too.
Therapy can be pretty good at understanding you are not a walking problem, which is where many people are at
But it can’t help with competition- and capitalism- induced suffering :(
As a man who both goes to therapy and enjoys wandering in the back country for no purpose but to be in nature, they’re two useful actions that meet different needs. A therapist one trusts can meet the need of putting your struggles into words, even your most troubling ones that you are embarrassed to share with the people closest to you, or possibly involve those close to you but need help figuring out how to address with them.
Wandering through nature alone is perspective, and disconnection from the noise of humanity. Nature is vast, whether endless ocean to the horizon or never ending mountain ranges as far as you can see. The sound of waves or birds, insects, and a river are quiet compared to the hum of electricity, cars, machines, and people we’re so inundated with that we forget it’s unnatural until we’re away from it. Sense of smell might be our weakest sense but in nature you realize how unclean what we breathe daily really is.
Also, let’s not pretend that escaping civilization and embracing the isolation of nature is something only men enjoy.
It also communicates an overconfidence in therapy as some kind of obvious, proven cure. I’m not sure therapy has proved itself to that degree, especially for men.
And yes. I’ve been to therapy.
But we have to find a way to blame the men for something. I mean… they’re men.
Exactly. It’s not reality people want to escape. It’s honest reality people want to find and most people get lost on the way.
I must have shit luck because in my experience most therapists are terrible at their jobs and unprofessional to boot
I’m sorry you haven’t found a good therapist. It took me ages to find one. I hope you can find a good one some day
Is therapy really that good? I know lots of folks that have been to therapy. They’re still shit.
I went to therapy and found a bunch of NEW things that I was (successfully) suppressing.
I PAID to have MORE problems. I can’t afford ME.
I know that I have a lot of problems. A therapy bill will just be one more and it’s not going to undo the previous problems.
Understanding how and why I’m fucked up is not the same as not being fucked up.
There are different kinds of therapy. Understanding what’s wrong is one thing anf can help to get along with issues. But there is also therapy that focuses on changing your behavior etc
But it’s a step towards being able to (hopefully) process and better live with your issues. It never claimed to magically fix everything in your life, it’s trying to get you to a point where you’re equipped to fix/handle it yourself.
Honestly if you’re not sure how therapy can help you, then therapy can’t properly help you. Most of the work comes from the patient
Therapy allowed me to let my guard down enough to see who I really am. That was pretty invaluable. Not easy or fun, but worth.
Yes…but have you tried a 29 day, 696 hour vacation on a boat?
idk i’ve always had difficulty with therapy because it feels like a trap. “go tell all your deepest darkest secrets to that other person, they sure won’t judge you.” then they put you in jail. it feels like the “good cop” in the “good cop/bad cop” game. they pretend to be nice meanwhile they’re working with the system. at least that’s the suspicion i get.
That hasn’t been my experience but I understand the concern
I don’t think it’s just as simple as going to therapy but I’ve been in therapy for years and I’m the happiest I’ve ever been. I really got to work through stuff that I had been dealing with for years. I think it’s hard to figure it out on your own, but I don’t think a therapist is the only thing you need.
Just do AI therapy!
It will tell you you’re great, and you won’t have to risk any emotional vulnerability with a real person!
You’re also very much into spirals now.
If you have very thoughtful friends or family members that you talk to and can be honest with about… Everything, then that fits the bill.
Also if it’s just the “someone to listen to you” thing there are other free alternatives e.g online (with the extra anonymity, which is nice) or to a catholic/orthodox/high anglican priest, or to a volunteer counselling group (one big one exists in my city).
If you’re not willing or feeling the need to give it a try, I would recommend reading about psychological concepts. Or just watch someone such as Daniel Mackler and you might learn to heal yourself through osmosis.
If you genuinely want to change and find a therapist who can help you find the right resources to do it, it’s invaluable.
It’s not a break from reality. It IS reality. It’s just that human nests - any conquered space of nature, be it urban or rural - has a habit of becoming a panopticon torture complex that we don’t very much enjoy being in
I love the sea. Its the most peaceful thing we have on this planet.
Until the next storm.
Even storms are beautiful to me. When not in a boat. :)
i remember when i was like 8 years old and at a boat while there was a storm outside. it was the beautiful kind of scary, the moment where you start thinking “ok whatever happens, i can’t change it, so i might as well vibe with the situation”.
easy life > Therapy + hard life
