• bryophile@lemmy.zip
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      17 hours ago

      It should help with developing a more healthy perception of reality, isn’t that enough?

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      2 days ago

      I mean for some it can help them accept and process reality a little better.

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        it is no sign of good health to be properly adapted to a profoundly sick society

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          It helps to survive. You can still critizice the fucked system while suffering less from it. Often that’s the best one can do.

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            It has nonzero value for many but that doesn’t elevate it to the status that we should shake our heads at people who don’t go. Like this tweet does.

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              I disagree.

              An unwillingness to engage with therapy, or therapeutic ideas at least, is something I will condescend about. I don’t think very highly of people who have no muscle for self-improvement.

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                Your logic is perfect as long as therapy is perfect, which it is not. Before you judge anyone on this, you need to allow for the fact that psychology is still a very inexact science and has also done a fair amount of harm over its history.

                “No muscle for self-improvement” is not synonymous with “I don’t go to therapy.”

                I would cautiously agree with you that it’s also not healthy to be totally against therapy. However in this tweet some men enjoyed a nice break from society and this tweet immediately went to making fun of them for not attending therapy.

                THAT is a very big LEAP.

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                  I’m referring to the platonic ideal of therapy; if you have a bad therapist, then find a new one. If you can’t… then that sucks.

                  But also, there’s a reason I said “therapeutic ideas”: I don’t go to therapy. I already have really strong muscles for self-improvement. The point of therapy, whether you pay for it or not, is to build them if you don’t have them.

                  In this sense, therapy is 1-to-1 synonymous with becoming a better person. If you’re doing the same work outside of a therapist’s office, that’s a meaningless different to me.

                  and this tweet immediately went to making fun of them

                  This tweet is framing the issue intentionally to land a punchline, they’re not talking about the actual guy.

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          And you become part of what makes it sick if you don’t have they tools to develop a deeper self awareness. I was profoundly skeptical of therapy for a long time, and also thought myself very self aware. But with a good therapist you can uncover enormous blind spots and generally improve how you treat yourself an others. Society is built by those within it.