According to the asswipe Krasnov, the 3 US soldiers that died yesterday were " a great deal for the rest of the world." Fuck him and his illegal war.
The media will hype “the troops” while ignoring the fact that “the troops” are being killed for oil, to make billionaires richer.
it’s worse that that: a sizeable percentage of the troops know that they’re killing innocent people, but doing it anyways because of orders.
some try to make up for it after committing those monstrous acts, but i doubt that’s possible since their voices are just as muted as any leftist.
American soldiers are scum.
Born too late to die in the middle east.
Born too early to die in the middle east.
Born just in time to die in the middle east.At least 153 girls in the first attack.
First time I open Lemmy and save a post so quickly.
“Don’t worry! I’ll come back and be venerated as a hero for protecting Western imperialism. And possibly become a “progressive” candidate for Maine, if I get enough nazi tattoos.”
Update:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/platner-sat-lengthy-interview-antisemitic-075439570.html
Platner sat for lengthy interview with antisemitic conspiracy theorist, said he was ‘longtime fan’ of his show
Matthew Kassel Fri, February 27, 2026 at 11:54 PM PST 4 min read
Yeah but the ones that die are “suckers and losers”.
(Quote from Pedolf Shitler)
One of the very few true things he’s said.
even a broken clock is right twice a day
except if it’s an electronic clock
Except if THAT is a 12 o’clock flasher, in which case it is correct about 30 times each day.
Love Pedolf Shitler that’s great. I was using pedolini and the rise of the turd Reich
they are killing people worldwide because they are imperialistic nazis, not because they are afraid of any consequences related to epstein, because there won’t be.
No consequences from the Epstein-class or their puppet politicians, but there could be consequences from people like you and me if we organize a revolution.
Just my opinion but I feel this right here is the real reason they are pushing so hard on AI advancement and online identity verification, along with the general dislike for privacy preserving communication tools (which they’ll come for next along with the rest of open source technology). Can’t build momentum if they know everything you do.
that’s a big if
Sure, so let’s start organizing now and make that “if” smaller.
hahah fat chance.
usians are still stuck at “voting for democrats” and “attacking iran is justified”
you’d also have to contend with the fact about a third of the population wants this.
I get what you mean, and no one hates Americans more than I do on some days.
But this isn’t about you or me. If we want a better world for the children that will come after us, the US needs to go. The most assured way of ensuring that happens is Americans causing the empire to implode.
Don’t turn them away, especially now when their role is critical
i wouldn’t disagree with you if the us was anywhere close.
we have to remember trump and his warmongering doesn’t exist in a vacuum, they have expressive popular support.
My dude. That’s why we have to organize. No one said it would be easy.
then put your money where your mouth is already instead of making excuses.
America loves thier soldiers until they have to take care of them
So much this. The same people saying “thank you for your service” are the same people that constantly want to cut veteran services. Sure they care when you’re a tool for their goals, but why can’t you then just instantly become an invisible member of society once you’re done?
Oh, you want more?! Wasn’t service enough for you? How dare you be traumatized by killing people and having bombs nearly blow you up! Maybe you should be a man.
But maybe I’m just too sensitive about this…
There’s no contradiction here. The US military exists to preserve and extend capitalism. Taking care of veterans would be socialist. Being abandoned by the state, as soon as you no longer serve a purpose for generating profit, is the best way to say thank you. It shows that everything you fought for is successful and working better than ever!
Meanwhile, the suckers and loose…err soldiers get the healthcare and support that they deny the average citizen.
Stop soldiering and they take it away.
Sending people off to kill and die so that rich pedos can make more money is not love
I don’t like Veteran’s Day and I’ve been called out for that.
I do respect and appreciate veterans for what they’ve done, but I cannot respect or celebrate the military complex that has thrown people into a meat grinder and then discarded them for decades, which is what that day represents to me.
I cannot support these wars, where people are brainwashed, used, then cast aside, to benefit elites and politicians who will never feel that pain and will literally party when dropping their bombs.
Fuck everything about that.
fuck your war criminals
I do respect and appreciate veterans for what they’ve done
WW2 veterans like, sure, but what other US veterans do tou respect for what they’ve done?
I despise anyone who becomes a soldier of their own free will. The moment you enlist, you accept that you could be obliged to kill, and that you will have no control over whether that killing will be justified.
In other words, you accept the possibility that you could become a murderer.
That’s why the US likes to keep a well stocked under class which makes the Army one of the few options to get out of abject poverty.
“I had to join this gang that kills 160 in a girls schools on the first day of our unprovoked war because I really wanted to go to university”
This is what I want to hear in my imaginary court so I can have a laugh while sentencing this fucker to his deserved hanging.Don’t forget giving young people in legal trouble an alternative to having a crime on their record or going to prison. Just enlist instead and all will be forgotten!
I wonder what would happen if we didn’t have a military at all
but think of the stock market!
This is what I look like when listening to the new Gorillaz album.
What kind of fantasy world are you living in?
I prefer that even more
We wouldn’t see images like the Iranian girl’s rucksack smeared with blood.
Good point. But let me ask you this:
Without a military or nuclear weapons, what is preventing other countries from taking advantage at the first chance they get?
Criticize the U.S. all you want. But the country is full of valuable resources that other countries want. Take away the U.S.'s ability to defend themselves and the risk of foreign nations taking advantage will spike dramatically. Nukes are basically the ultimate “don’t even think about it” sign.
sorry full of valuable resources? what, corn? dataservers? pedophiles?
the U.S. is not some piggy bank waiting to be cracked. Realistically, the current US military exists to defend America from all the nations it’s pissed off by invading them in the past. It’s a self-fullfilling system.
the U.S.'s ability to defend themselves
If you have nukes and are the only sick fucks ever top use it why do you need to ‘defend’ yourself everywhere in the world unprovoked.
get fucked with your BS. You’re parroting regime propaganda.
Even they at least became less hypocritical in naming it the Dep of War, not defense.
Maybe follow that lead if you want to be a little warcriminal imperialist bootlicker.Every fucking day there’s some fucker online that makes me despise that cancer country even more.
Absolute scum of the earthI never specifically said “joining US military is bad”, I said joining the military in general is a bad thing. And neither did I talk about nukes, which are the ultimate evil.
I also never demanded to remove the military capabilities of one country, leaving it open for other countries to attack. I never talked about these things, about balance of power, about mutually assured destruction and all these geostrategic aspects of military logic.
All I said was - if you are a person who joins your country’s military, I despise you. Period. This is a statement I made completely disregarding all these other aspects you mention, and it is completely logically valid on its own.
w-what if those foreigners do to us what we do to them
Your conscience is projecting
because we wouldn’t have the internet. the US military contributed significantly to the development of today’s internet.
they can stick the entire internet up their ass if it’s used to post idiotic exclamations like yours
Would we have the Autobahn if Hitler hadn’t built it?
probably with some time delay, the germans love a good race (/s)
apart from that, the military did some significant research into a lot of technology, including airplanes (and rockets), internet, nuclear energy.
You failed to get the point I was making. Just because the military is a driving factor to technological progress, doesn’t mean it’s a good thing all of a sudden. And all that progress could also have been made by science. Wernher von Braun didn’t care who funded his research into rockets.
What do you think the drones are for?
Thats the trick. If a country doesn’t have a military and they have something like resources other countries want. The become puppets of the countries that have militaries. The exceptions are small countries that don’t have enough of anything anyone wants for others to bother taking it. They don’t tend to do so well usually.
It’s a race to the bottom.
ironically the countries with more natural resources typically have lower quality of life. this is known as the resource curse phenomenon.
Yeah i’m sure it’s a curse, and not centuries of colonialism, imperialism, uneven trade etc etc.
The Third World is not poor. You don’t go to poor countries to make money. There are very few poor countries in this world. Most countries are rich! The Philippines are rich! Brazil is rich! Mexico is rich! Chile is rich—only the people are poor. But there’s billions to be made there, to be carved out, and to be taken—there’s been billions for 400 years! The Capitalist European and North American powers have carved out and taken the timber, the flax, the hemp, the cocoa, the rum, the tin, the copper, the iron, the rubber, the bauxite, the slaves, and the cheap labour. They have taken out of these countries—these countries are not underdeveloped—they’re overexploited!
-Michael Parenti
The “resource curse” is just people trying to pretend imperialism isn’t responsible. Norway has plenty of oil and they have a high quality of life, because nobody invaded them.
Plenty of these countries had leaders who wanted to use their resources to help the people, but the powers that be, most often the US, didn’t want that. And so for example Mohammed Mossadegh of Iran, a peaceful, democratically elected progressive, was overthrown by the CIA, and he was replaced by a monarch who could be easily bribed and would use the oil to enrich himself. And when that monarch caved to domestic pressure and participated in an oil embargo, US support was withdrawn and he was overthrown and the current government came to power.
There’s no “mystery” or “curse.” It’s just imperialism. The story generally goes that these resources were stolen by force during colonialism and remained in foreign hands after independence and the country still functions as a neocolony, leading to poverty and exploitation, or war and instability if they challenge it.
Very much so. So ewhere there is a balance of having enough to be a stable country, but not so much to draw attention. But it’s a very small point to balance on.
So what you’re saying is… superpower nations shouldn’t exist
Correct. If there is one, then others have to exist to balance them out. Only with none can we all exist without militaries. And that really should be a goal.
but they do. And now it is just a game of brinksmanshit
Not true for the USN. They hand you a contract that you sign. You only have to do what is contained in that contract. To change your job they have to get you to sign a new contract. I was never close to combat, and neither would any other Navy Nuke, though they actually left the school for the fleet. I skipped that step. There are tons of non-combat jobs in the US military that will never be anywhere close to combat. Logistics is why our military works.
That being said, it’s worse than you are making it out to be. A lot of the people who signed up for combat roles were looking to kill people before they ever signed the contract.
You join the USN, you help with the logistics, someone you’ve helped in some way or another presses a button somewhere, a cruise missile is fired, obliterates a target and a few bad guys, some civilians die as collateral damage - to me, you’ve helped kill these civilians even though, admittedly, you’ve only played a very minor role. I very much doubt there are any contracts at the USN that 100% exclude that possibility and I’m not giving anyone a benefit of the doubt.
I have a good friend that is a cardiologist in the air force. Joined the military when he got into med school to cover his tuition and the get guaranteed residency. He’s never been deployed over seas, never been in a war area, and never designed a process or item that has led to an indirect killing. An exception could be if he saved someone that went back to kill someone, but that would be true for all doctors military or not, so that’s not a valid comparison.
There are many military jobs that are simple office jobs like accounting. Not everyone of them is linked to battle.
If you think these more mundane jobs indirectly lead to military related casualties, you better start hating on your local grocery store, because odds are they have given supplies to a soldier that eventually indirectly killed someone. Or probably any public service a soldier could use, because indirectly, that may help the soldier kill someone.
Holy reaching Batman. That’s quite a reach from serving in the military doesn’t ackchually serve the military in some cases to your grocery is probably serving the military.
No wonder yankistanis like getting dominated by your government. Keep kissing that boot though and wondering why the government turned fascist, it’s probably the local groceries fault.
Working for the military makes you a war enabler. Best case. You help making it possible for some government asshole to wage war. Worst case, you become a murderer.
So whether you’re in battle or not only decides if you’re a murderer or helping murderers.
None of these possibilities are acceptable. Period.
Paying your taxes makes you a much bigger war enabler than the non combat military. And with taxes, you not only enable your country to go to war. You enable other countries to do so too, as your gov pays for weapons to give them. The fact is, noone is innocent. And the people truely causing the wars for thier own interest just want us to blame each other instead of them. Clearly, you are giving them what they want.
. “Being alive makes you a war enabler. Just fucking kill yourself.”
This guy, apparently
If you read my first comment, I explicitly said “of their own free will”. I do not pay taxes out of my own free will, so your comparison is invalid.
Um… If they really had a choice, the vast majority would not join the military. There are exceptions of course. But most feel they have no other options. Just like technically you don’t have to pay your taxes (you can file a form to have nothing withheld from your paycheck). But it is the best choice if you want to make a living. So still, very much valid.
The grocery’s job doesn’t rely upon the imperial pillaging of other places to make economic sense. “Non combat roles” in the military do. The military doctor’s job is to get the boys back out doing more slaughter. That’s the point. If they didn’t do that they wouldn’t be doing their job. Other doctors, that’s not the point…it could be some distant effect, sure, but for a military doctor it’s direct. Other doctors see patients who are not involved in imperialist slaughter of innocents. Military doctors do not.
This is like Von Braun saying “I was only an SS officer developing military weapons for the science! I wasn’t like…info it, you know, you can’t hold it against me.” Accountants for the Nazis should have quit, and it’s okay to say they’re awful people and complicit in the holocost. Anyone who works for the US military is complicit in the imperialist crimes of that organization. I’m sorry if that’s you or people you love. If it is, you should do something about it.
Absolutely agree.
I happen to be German, by the way. My grandfather was forced into the Wehrmacht, he tried fleeing the battlefield, he got executed.
Anyone who works for the military enables politicians to wage war. And no soldier will ever be able to 100% prove their actions never led to anyone getting hurt.
Soldiers know and accept that and that’s why I despise them.
Your grandfather was very brave ❤️ It’s sad that ordinary people are sometimes forced to choose between bravery and monstrosity. But there it is.
And frankly, us military members are not forced. They can just…have a normal life instead.
Yeah. Why not just lead a normal life.
I wish society would frown upon people choosing to become soldiers like they do upon prostitutes. But instead, all this glorification and militarism makes them think being a soldier is a commendable thing.
In my view, prostitutes should get the medals. They literally make love, not war.
Gather round while I sing you of Wernher von Braun,
A man whose allegiance
Is ruled by expedience.
Call him a Nazi, he won’t even frown.
“Ha, Nazi Schmazi,” says Wernher von Braun.Don’t say that he’s hypocritical,
Say rather that he’s apolitical.“Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That’s not my department,” says Wernher von Braun.Some have harsh words for this man of renown,
But some think our attitude
Should be one of gratitude,
Like the widows and cripples in old London town
Who owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun.
There are tons of contracts in the USN that absolutely guarantee that you will never see anywhere close to combat. All Nukes only serve on Carriers and Subs. Corpsmen (Navy Doctors and nurses) tend the wounded. You KNOW what you are signing up to do before they ever even send you to MEPS for medical testing. The only people that might not have specifically signed up for firing a weapon is whoever launches the missiles that we shoot from our frigates. I don’t know if “Gunner” is still a job, but I would assume it is since the Navy has all the big guns.
I can’t speak to what happens in the fleet. I went to Navy Nuke school, learned to operate power plants, and they gave me a new extremely lucrative contract to stay there and teach other people to operate power plants.
I also cannot speak for The Army, Air Force, or Marines. Though with the first and third, it’s hard to imagine that one wouldn’t know that they are signing up to potentially kill people.
No sympathy for willing imperial enforcers.
USA Imperial boots try not to butcher people. mission: impossible
Every one of these fuckers should skip ahead to the part where they shoot themselves drunk
20 a day become one of the good ones
i can’t think of the last time, if ever, i loved and hated a meme so much at the same time
Yeah, its hardcore
No you don’t understand, they are doing it to get into college! /sarcasm
If we had free college tuition and universal healthcare, there would be no one to fight the pedo oligarchs’ wars for them.
Which is why republicans and centrist democrats oppose both free tuition and universal healthcare.
That’s an angle that more people should talk about, honestly.
The mistreatment of the American populace isn’t just to keep a steady supply of cheap labor for the rich people’s investments, it’s to keep a steady supply of cheap lives for the government to do their dirty work.
My generation’s dead and disabled veterans fell in service to that sweet Iraqi oil. Oh and the Saddam hidden underground meme, can’t forget that one!
It’s almost like soldiers are not immune to the material conditions that help perpetuate the capitalist empire…?
Historically one of the most important missions for any revolution is to spread class consciousness among the imperialist troops.
I don’t really know how people really expect a revolution to be possible while withholding class solidarity from the only people who have military training.
The pedocracy. New term coined.
A tale as old as time. We all need to develop some bone spurs.
