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    It would be cool if we could hack the feeds shown by our own cameras to show images of Donald and Epstein together, so every time they look, everytime they use our cameras, it’s logged with images of Donny and his best friend

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    This really highlights how important it is for people to understand what they’re opting into with smart devices. Transparency and informed choice matter more than ever.

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      the contracts/terms/etc don’t even matter… they can change them at any time, without prior notice. stop buying stuff, plain and simple.

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    Oh noooo, that thing we warned people about when it came out is being misused in exactly the way we warned people it would be misused.

    Oh nooooo.

    I’m tired grandpa. Too damn many stupid people in this world.

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      yeah, 100%, and there is no satisfaction in being proven right for this shit, the vindication is absolutely hollow. It sucks for everyone.

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      world

      The US. The rest of us don’t have an ICE problem nor an obsession with this kind of shit.

      Edit: Americans really don’t like their actions and responsibility handed back to them do they? God they’re getting fucking tiring.

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        That is simply not true.

        Here in the EU we have chat control trying to be forced through every year for mass surveillance and targeting like Spain targeting catalan independence movements.

        Palantir is starting to expand into the EU and american fash-tech companies have been lobbying hard and giving money to fascist parties across the EU. Musk gave unprescidented money of AfD fascists, for example.

        UK has been getting more and more fascist for years, they have had mass surveillance for years and have been arresting people for simply attending zoom meetings supporting a country being killed off en-masse. Palantir literally just landed a £240 million deal with the UK government

        We don’t have an ICE problem yet. Neither did america 10 years ago. It is being pushed HARD here to create an ICE problem.

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          Yes, it’s simply true.

          They’re trying, as you point out. They’re not there yet.

          Besides which, the use of the ‘world’ in place of the ‘US’ sterilises where the responsibility lies.

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        feels like rest of the world, including Europe, is like “can we slip in a couple of ours while Trump is doing all these insane bat shit crazy stuff and distracting people”

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        Every time I thought the US was stupid for doing a thing, the rest of the world followed with the same bullshit a few years later. Some sooner, some later. The US is not more stupid, they’re trendsetters.

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            Zyklon-B, the pesticide used in the gas chambers, was still being manufactured, sold and used (for its intended pesticide usage) all the way up until the 2010s iirc.

            and this was still under the Zyklon name.

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              Imagine all the jobs that would be lost if we stopped using zyklon b to gas undesirables! Wrings hands.

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            Not that it makes it any better, but at least they tried hiding operation paperclip. Hopefully indicating some kind of shame.

            Volkswagen didn’t even change their name

            Barely changed the logo

            “Yeah we were the nazi car company who helped do the holocaust. That was a doozy. Anyways, wanna buy a nazi car?”

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          If you see what was done to VW, I think it makes sense though. Not really familiar with the histories of the others in relation.

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                You presumably mean that Hugo Boss ‘designed the SS uniform’ — which he didn’t, as he wasn’t a designer and the company wasn’t in fashion design until after his death. The uniform was designed by two dudes in the SS, and Hugo Boss’ company was one of many manufacturers contracted for production.

                Hugo Boss was a member of the Nazi party, though.

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        the nazi scientists got employed in the US, so theres that. and plus we had a nazi party in the usa that was never sanctioned.

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      When do you people WAKE UP? What accountability? What responsibility? When in the last decade plus has any if that happened?

      I’m sure it’s just around the corner…

      Open your damn eyes. The entire planet can see it, why are Americans so blind?l is it intentional? You guys let J6 slide ffs, why would there be an ounce of accountability now or ever? UNREAL

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        It’s very real. This is history repeating itself for the umpteenth time. You aren’t the first, nor will you be the last one to scream into the void about people who have been deliberately disenfranchised by their government with the direct intent of making them toothless against what is essentially a fascist regime.

        The problem is that you’re screaming a lot but not offering actual solutions except a general idea of “Fight!”. That’s not helpful, and it sounds a lot like condescension.

        I understand that you’re expressing frustration and disbelief and anger. But people here are angry too and they are fighting where they can. But as this and other news is very demonstrative of, the system is rigged against them and things get worse in that regard every day.

        App stores removing apps that track ICE. People who share their outrage but not solutions/who don’t boost actual efforts to fight.

        News article that focus solely on the bad part and offer no solutions. The fact that you don’t come across many posts with actual solutions isn’t a it’s intentional. People ignore things that help so they can remain outraged, supercilious, and smug.

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          The problem is that you’re screaming a lot but not offering actual solutions except a general idea of “Fight!”. That’s not helpful, and it sounds a lot like condescension.

          None of this stopped USians from endlessly writing on Reddit for the past four years that Russians should’ve overthrown Putin, and I didn’t see them helping plan a revolution.

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            I have tried to explain to Americans here and on reddit and other places too that the political landscape in Russia is very different and that what we think is possible is all passed through the lens of our own government and country. But people are gonna people.

            For what it’s worth, I don’t agree with those people whole sale either. I recognize that what they’re asking the Russian populace to do is tantamount to a death or slavery sentence.

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          All I’ve heard for 40 years of life is 2a this and 2a that. Turns out it was just an excuse for school shootings and gun nuts to keep their toys. Your answer is staring you in the face, whether you want to acknowledge or not is another thing.

          Do you really believe the traditional channels will be of any use? Or have those already - long, long - been compromised?

          Even if the channels had just been neutered yesterday, do yoy really think Trump would give back an inch? He’ll TACO all day on tariffs, but on human rights violations he is consistent - take and never return.

          You’re platitudes are lovely, and in fairness, not even entirely incorrect. But what you, and eveidently millions and millions of Americans don’t seem to understand, is the milk has already been spilled. The how and the why are for scholars a hundred years from now to sort out. For today, tomorrow and the day after, y’all need to find a way to stop the continous slide. It’s not getting easier next week or the week after.

          Label me WHATEVER you like that gets people’s ASSES IN GEAR. As angry as I am, amazingly enough I am still on your side. I should be flushing every bloody word an American speaks to me straight down the toilet after your Dear Leader and half the country shit on an ally in ways never seen before. Yet here I am, trying to propel you people to acknowlegde the real situation for what it is. Why is that? Truthfully, I’m selfish. I’d love to not have to take up arms to defend my border, but let’s be honest, that’s inevitable if Americans don’t clean up their own shit.

          So before you come and tell me how smug and supercilious I’m being, take a moment to realize this - becuase of your people’s patently obvius shitty decisions, I have to enlist and potentially PUT MY LIFE ON THE LINE to defend my country against an ‘ally’. Pardon me for not giving a fuck about your spineless response and pages of assinine commentary.

          GO DO SOMETHING.

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            There’s a lot of armed people here willing to fight, but without some kind of organized call-to-arms (whether it be militias or state national guard), all that’s gonna happen is you’re going to be arrested and given a 20+ year prison sentence for assault on a federal officer with a deadly weapon. It’s easy to say you’d fight back, but a lot of us have families to provide for and can’t just throw away our lives like that.

            Right now, we’re lacking leadership, and most democrats in power don’t have the balls to openly call for resistance. I don’t know what the future holds, but I feel we’re nearing a breaking point where we might start seeing armed resistance.

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              You are clearly not wrong. However, the question I would return with: if not violence, what mechanism for change will actually move a lever?

              I’m certainly at my most pessimistic moment, but sincerely I don’t see how this changes for your countrymen at this point without violence…? What realistic compromise could we even draw up? The two sides are diametrically opposed. There isn’t common ground because there isn’t even a common reality. The legal system seems righed and there is no leadership. You have touched on some of these points yourself.

              I’ll take a try at what a compromise might look like:

              – Trump agrees to go door to door with Minnesota Police. This gurantees:

              1. The process is done slowly and unchaotically. This is what MN wants.
              2. Every single address is searched and the potential for immigrant removal is near 100%. This is what Trump wants.

              This solution would save lives, but also give up significant civil liberties. It’s the best I can think up. Hopefully you are more creative than I am.

              My last comment: I too have a family. And many extended family. And friends across Canada. It is on behalf of these people that I’m so passionate. And I can also appreciate your concerns also because of these same people. These are two sides of the same coin.

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            You fail to understand that this wasn’t an attack on you, but commentary about the state of things and how they look from the inside rather than the outside.

            And as someone who did enlist, I’m gonna just point out something. Your country should never have allowed allyship with the USA to divest you of a fighting force worthy of protecting your own assets, borders, or sovereignty.

            I absolutely don’t agree that the US should be fucking about in any other country. But the entire world never even batted an eye when we were setting up puppet regimes and destabilizing whole countries where brown people live. So you’ll figure me if our problematic behavior has finally landed on your doorstep. I don’t agree with the shit we’ve done in South America, The Middle East, or half a dozen African countries.

            But I also grew up in poverty and found my way out of that through enlistment, so I was part of the problem whether I wanted to be or not.

            I am trying to have empathy for you and people like you while pointing out that our government is literally kidnapping people off the street and essentially using FLOK cameras as legal wiretaps. The people who are doing something need help to boost the signal and people are ignoring them.

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              There is something your citizenry could do, but unfortunately they lack the unity to do it nor can most of them put up with the hardship it would entail. The size of the nation in terms of distance isn’t a problem, smaller populations with just as much distance have successfully protested in unity. It’s unity itself and the inability to put up with hardship.

              That is to stop work, stop buying anything you can, grind the means of production to a halt. Yeah, people would lose jobs they don’t want, healthcare which is inadequate anyway and housing that will still be available once the goal is achieved, which is to force the houses to act on impeachment and whatever amendments and institutional rules exist to remove this administration.

              Violence or inciting violence is not the answer and I think I’d be preaching to the converted on this one, you said you were an ex serviceman. Sure, all your citizens should have on hand whatever means they can to defend themselves (as is their constitutional right) but you know as well as I do where that will end up.

              The easiest method to stop this is voting; in every election where the position requires election from the people, you’re there. You tell your employer you will be before you take a new job, it’s that important. That’s why the Republicans are where they are, because their people vote. It might be the only redeeming quality they have.

              That one’s done now though. The next easiest is what I suggested above and it has to be done, or you’re done because I can’t see a fair midterm happening. They have to be removed. It’ll work if enough stop.

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              I understand your frustration, but take a moment to remember you are where you are because you didn’t vote in numbers.

              People overseas are threatened by this without having a choice in that. So yeah, they may have to defend themselves against your military because you are too lazy to vote as a collective.

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              Yes, everyone is a bot. You’re right. And this is an alt account. Nice work Sherlock. I guess that makes everything I said incorrect? Because my account is 15 days old? Nice strawman.

              I’ll entertain this so it’s in writing:

              1. I had never heard of Lemmy until a few months ago. Why is that? Because I am actively divesting from US assets and companies. Why is that? Clearly Trump and the last 12 months.
              2. I enjoyed Reddit. Quite a bit. I was reluctant to leave because of all subreddits I’d curated and they have great niche places. Their sports communities are second to none, for example.
              3. I fully admit the first time I tried to setup Lemmy it was a fail. I went back to Reddit for another few months as a result.
              4. Trump continues and continues to insult his allies and the 101 other things he’s done to make humanity worse off than the day before. So again I made a push to divest.
              5. SO I TRIED LEMMY AGAIN. Imagine the horror, I had to make an account at some point. Apologies I wasn’t a super duper early adopter like you were. Frankly, if Trump isn’t President I never show up here at all.

              Do yoy wanna run that through ChatGPT to make sure it’s authentic?

              So back to the ACTUAL DISCUSSION POINT: This isn’t about my spine you idiot. I didn’t vote for him and I’m not an American citizen. YOU HAD THE CHANCE. He was voted out and then allowed to return. I had zero ability to influence any of that.

              And because of your countries moral bankruptcy, now we are preparing to defend ourselves against an ‘ally’. Many nations are doing so.

              Just going to ignore all that?

              And finally, I AM PROUD TO SERVE MY COUNTRY. AND I WILL ANSWER THE CALL WHEN THE TIME COMES. Even though I nor my nation had anything to do with the shit storm that is landing on our front step. Also while Americans themselves, who got us to this point, are being trampled on and not standing up for what is right. So yeah, if you guys did anything whatsoever, we wouldn’t be here. He was voted out ffs.

              Back over to your strawman. But before you start again, let’s not forget letting that little J6 thing completely slide by without any consequence… what a joke.

              EDIT: Calls me a bot and an alt, strawmans and then DELETES the comment outright. Guess that rebuttal was 10/10. Nice work @ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world

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    Can we all agree to print out flyers of this to share around with neighbors and our communities? People ARE under educated. It starts with us educating because the oligarchs wont

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      I doubt that anyone who has a ring camera, alexa and anything like that will care. Maybe people who think about getting one will, but a random flyer?

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        I care. I have Ring because it was the fastest way to get cameras on my property after trouble with neighbors. I found out how liberal they are with user data and handing it over to law enforcement but I couldn’t justify the expense in upgrading. For me this isn’t a bridge too far in a moral sense but more like a powerful reminder I’ve been lax in my responsibility. I’m pricing out some Reolink cameras I can host locally at home and put on a private subnet I can just VPN into. I’ll have to buy the kit piecemeal because I don’t have a lot of money to toss around but I am firmly committed to getting off Ring cameras in light of this news.

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      There was a time when I thought that was impossible… now I don’t even have an account

      I think my wife keeps one because according to her (and I believe this is true) there are things you just can’t buy elsewhere anymore. So far, I have been fine not buying something if it’s only on Amazon but I can see cases where that would be impossible.

      Other than that, fuck Amazon right off

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        thing you just can’t buy elsewhere anymore

        Yes and no. For example I had to buy double-sided tape and went into four different stores in different areas of my city and only found it in the fourth store after researching.

        I checked on Amazon after the fact, and could have had it delivered to my door same-day lol.

        I don’t believe there’s anything you can only buy on Amazon… but it IS so bloody convenient.

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        there are things you just can’t buy elsewhere anymore.

        What specifically is this true for?

        Other than their Amazon basic branded trash.

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      People send me links to Amazon products and seem bewildered when I just don’t open them and or respond to send me the actual link to the mfr website.

      Fuck amazon

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    Is there some really good open source and local cameras that people are using? Because many people default to ring.

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      I am looking at using Eufy, no subscription. Unsure of potential of it joining the darkside.

      Edit: China-owned, so it’s a pick-your-poison kind of deal.

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        Eufy is a sub-brand of Anker, for those unaware.

        You can connect Eufy cameras to your NAS (RTSP) if you want to completely avoid sending the recording to the cloud, or only stored on the MicroSD card.

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      This guy just did a privacy review of wireless home security cameras. ReoLink was a good option.

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      You can just use analog security cameras and a DVR of your choosing. Don’t let the word analog fool you, the cameras are available in up to 4K resolution. Since the video is recorded to the DVR and not some random company’s server it is safe. It requires a little more setup and know-how but it is by no means difficult. Check the surveillance section on B&H’s website. There are tons of options.

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      Not sure if it is open source, but I switched to ReoLink a while back and have been very happy with it. Good Home Assistant integration, no subscription, and everything can be local (store video clips to an onboard SD Card).

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      I use ReoLink cameras blocked from the Internet. Locally, the app is p2p and works fine. For remote viewing, I have the rtmp proxied through my home server.

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    Home “security” cameras cause far, far more angst and grief than they do benefit.

    “Hey, mister policeman, here’s a video of a guy stealing my truck.”

    “Yep, that’s a guy stealing your truck, alright.”

    “…”

    “Should’a put it in your garage.”

    “My garage is full of crap I bought on Amazon. Some of it, I haven’t even opened. Also, the truck didn’t fit in the garage after I had it lifted.”

    “The report is filed, I’ll let you know if we find anything.”

    “You’re not going to find anything, are you?”

    “We’re not even going to look.”

    One-third of Nextdoor is lost pets. One-third is people selling crap they bought at Goodwill. And, the last third is people asking about the “suspicious” (non-white) man who walked down the sidewalk past their house at 5AM.

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      The only reason to contact the police if something gets stolen is so that you can show the report to your insurance company.

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      Eh my cameras sit local and only get looked at when I am either board and want to do some frigate plus uploads or if something happens. Besides looking where delivery drivers have left packages I have only had one incident.

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    this is great news for my leftist in-laws who decided to get ring cameras out of the convenience they offered.

    I did warn them that this would happen, but like most people, “that would never happen!”

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    Oh look another smart technology I didn’t adopt for the exact reason being talked about. You can’t trust big tech to not collaborate with whoever it’s the most profitable to collaborate with.

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      It’s not really a trust thing. They are companies, not people. The top decision makers have a fubuciary responsibility to do whatever makes money. They can, and often do, get sued if they don’t. So you can expect them to sell you out. It’s literally thier purpose for existing.

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      You can’t trust big tech to not collaberate with, big tech either. You don’t want them with your information, even if it’s not readily apparent how it could hurt you. Before you know it you could be in a fascist dictatorship and wondering how you got there, this is part of the reason. Or would be in that completely hypothetical situation that in no way mirrors our own situation with our dear most intelligent and not al all dickish supreme leader.

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    It would not surprise me if this inspired systematic vandalism of these devices. Not that I would ever advocate for such a thing.

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    Have considered a plain old doorbel and a peep hole on the door?

    Low tech, cheap, cheap to install, lasts a lifetime.

    Heck, if safety is the concern, install a periscope. Yes, mirrora inside a tube, to get to see, from a distance, who is at the door.

    You want footage? Photos?

    Install a local camera. Like one of those that are setup by biologists to film animals in the wild. Triggered by motion sensing. Or talk with someone technically inclined and install a local system.

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      I’ve disconnected the doorbell at every place I’ve lived in the last 10 years. If I’m expecting you I’ll be waiting and opening the door for you, everyone else can leave a message or find a different way to contact me

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        Absolutely this. Not many people understand this, especially not my gen (x) or older. Here they’re all pavlov’ed to open the door when it rings or answer the phone. I never do that.

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          I don’t answer the phone unless you are in my contacts list or I am specifically expecting a call.

          If someone calls and doesn’t leave a voicemail or text, then it isnt important.

          Filters out the junk (and often outright scam) calls.

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            Exactly. The important people know how to reach me, all others simply aren’t.

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              I’m at work for most of that window. And when I miss it, they’ll try again the next day at the same time…believe it or not, I’ll be at work then too.

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                What’s fun is now UPS wants a second shipping fee to schedule a time or hold your package for you. You can no longer presign their little paper to leave the package. The only option is to pay, or they’ll return your package.

                It’s extortion.

                Worse, I was home both days and they never knocked or rang the bell. I let them return the package, on them, took my full refund, then reordered. We cycled through this game until someone rang the bell.

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                  Not everything is about me. My comment was more tongue-in-cheek than anything.

                  More seriously, the tracking numbers usually narrow it down to an hour or 2 if you actually follow it. Given the once every few years that I have a package requiring a signature, I think I can handle it.

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        Honest question: what is the reason to have a doorbell of this kind?

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          Tells you when a package arrived and when the neighbor stole it off your porch. Tells you someone rang the bell when not home and lets you remotely yell ant the door to door sales people.

          I mean they’re useful, but I sure wouldn’t ever trust one connected to any sort of cloud.

          I do have a UniFi door cam that records to a local hard drive. I like it. Ties in with my other cameras to watch my vehicle in my driveway.

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          If you can see it’s a salesperson you can ignore them but answer if it’s the mailman/UPS. Get notified that a package was dropped off… or that shortly thereafter some rando walks up to said package.

          Think of it as a door-peephole-at-range.

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          Many.

          If you get deliveries and they’re mishandled, you have a recording of it.

          If someone comes to your door when you’re not home, you can talk to them.

          You can also set up local AI alerts (AI here is mostly used for facial recognition) e.g. to alert you if your MIL comes around uninvited, or if your kids sneak out at 2am, and so on.

          Once you begin appreciating a home CCTV camera setup (fully local mind you), you’ll see the benefit of having your doorbell video-ed up as well.

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            You can also set up local AI alerts (AI here is mostly used for facial recognition) e.g. to alert you if your MIL comes around uninvited, or if your kids sneak out at 2am, and so on.

            That sounds awful. I’d rather just not, and avoid that mindset altogether.

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              Avoid the mindset that your kid might sneak out, or an unwanted guest might have shown up?

              Ignorance may be bliss, but it certainly doesn’t stop shenanigans from happening.

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                In the context of parenting there are certainly better things you can do to prevent “shennanigans” other than subjecting them to surveillance. Like you know… raising them?

                Terrifying with a generation of peole grown up under total control and expected to be perfectly obedient. They will be shitty adults. But hey, at least they won’t have memories of that time they snuck out at night to watch the stars.

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                  Look, I’ve had a random person walk into my house uninvited before, and having a recording of it was useful. Just because you don’t like the idea of one of the examples given, doesn’t mean these devices have no use.

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            The idea of going back to a blind simple lock protecting my house, pets, and stuff is crazy to me - smart CCTV and an internet connected alarm system are so much better, plus there’s no “monitoring” cost like some folks pay. $40 so you can call the cops for me? No.

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          In addition to “normal” uses, my kids got into the habit of leaving me messages on the camera when I’m in the office and they are leaving for school. I grew to love these messages.

          Using Eufy with local storage. Don’t know whether anything gets stored to the cloud, but I guess data still passes through Eufy servers when I view the videos.

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          1. Not getting off the sofa. Video doorbell pops up on my watch, no matter where I happen to be, so I can immediately decide whether it can interrupt what I’m doing.
          2. Shut the hell up. Sometimes I turn off the chimes so I’m not bothered by yet another door to door sales drone. But I still have my watch in case whoever is at the door is legitimate
          3. Intercom. My kid sometimes want to tell me something without coming inside
          4. History. Yes, sometimes I want to scroll back through all motion trigger s in front of my door
          5. Wildlife. Minor feature but it is occasionally fascinating to see what animals amble in front of my door. I’m urban so it’s limited but we have turkeys and coyotes
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          How else can you have the pleasure of telling Jehovah’s Witnesses to go away when you’re not at home?

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            I was waiting for this reply!

            I love those guys! Trolling them always makes my day. Asking if they are willing to help clean the house never fails to get them off my door.

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                Never happened and I seriously doubt it ever will. But! I have a couple of maid outfits laying around if it ever does. I’ll listen if they comply with my request.

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      Make sure to put a cover on the peephole. There is some sort of lens or something that can allow someone outside to see through it.

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      I like to know when a package arrives, and when someone has stolen it.

      Doorbell cams are just too convenient. You already have power there. There’s footage and audio.

      Of course, I’m technically inclined…

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        You can have both. I have a 360 camera set up around my house that records to a local dvr. I can remote into it when I’m not home and I’m not supporting ghoulish companies like google or Amazon.

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            The cameras I inherited from the previous owner. They’re fairly low quality analog cameras but they get the job done. They had a Night Owl Brand system but I replaced it with a reolink dvr I have on a vlan so it’s separate from the rest of my network. When I have more time I’ll probably switch over to frigate though. That’ll likely come with me buying some higher quality cameras that are digital.

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          You can have both if you have the know how and time to do so. I’d rather just pay $60 a year and under $100 for the cameras. How does Wyze support Google and Amazon? I’m genuinely asking.

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            My bad, I mixed up wyze with nest, which google owns. Amazon owns blink and ring. I do know wyze was founded by former Amazon employees, which is definitely not the same as their being controlled or supported by Amazon. That said, you may want to read up on some of their security breaches, which have happened multiple times.

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              I’m aware. I just don’t care that some random person could see my driveway momentarily. If it kept happening, I would cancel.

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                It’s not just a random person, you’re opening yourself up to the government subpoenaing wyze and collecting information about you without your knowledge or consent. In a normal world with a responsible government that wouldn’t be a huge deal provided you’re not doing anything seriously wrong, but that ship has sailed as of late. Don’t let them incriminate you with a fishing expedition for convenience

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          I saw that when it happened. I’m not really bothered by the fact that a random person somewhere may have seen my driveway. If it kept happening, sure. I don’t have the wherewithal and time to set up a camera on a server, and in this day and age I feel like some sort of security camera is necessary. There’s a serious case for privacy, but not all of us have the capability or concern that the echo-chamber on Lemmy does about immaculate privacy.

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            You’ll get downvoted for having this opinion here but it’s a real take. Everyone has their own level of privacy they’re okay with and yours is a bit lower than the average user here.

            If you’re okay with the potential risk, then that is your own choice, no one is forcing you.

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              Thank you for understanding that. This platform assumes the whole world functions as they do and has no understanding for people who either just don’t care or lack ability.