Thomas Jefferson resigned as Secretary of State due to the amount of corruption in government. I guarantee they wouldn’t be surprised. I would hope they would feel shame for not writing the constitution better.
Laughing kike a lunatic right now, don’t mind me XD
They would be deeply confused by our seeming hatred for France, then be deeply confused why America is fucking around in other countries.
Thomas Paine might be a little happy about a few things though. Hard to tell.
Many of them were veterans of a war against France. France was their ally at the time, but they wouldnt have any problem with the concept of shifting alliances and loyalties.
Prehistoric man would be straight up FLUMMOXED, by a lunchable.
To be fair, most people not from the US (and perhaps Canada) are too, the first time we hear about that weirdness 🤷🏻
We had lunchables in Canada when I was coming up. No idea if we still do, though.
Benjamin Franklin is, by far, one of the most interesting figures in American history. He’s one of my favorite historical people to read about because every time he’s mentioned, you end up learning something fascinating about him.
I recently had a discussion with someone on Lemmy who absolutely hated Benjamin Franklin solely because he owned slaves early in his life.
Nothing else mattered to him. It didn’t matter that Franklin later became one of the earliest and most outspoken abolitionists in American history, serving as president of the Philadelphia Abolitionist Society for years and advocating publicly for the abolition of slavery.
I completely condemn the fact that Franklin owned slaves. Slavery is morally reprehensible and indefensible. At the same time, I don’t believe that should prevent us from recognizing Franklin as one of the most fascinating and consequential figures in American history. His life demonstrates that people can hold deeply immoral beliefs, later reject them, and spend years working to undo the injustice they once accepted.
People can be great in some ways yet fallible or bad in others, particularly when looked at through the lense of time.
Follies and achievements should often be looked at with the perspective that we’ve had the opportunity to learn a lot from both.
Xhamster isn’t American.
Fuck Madison Cawthorn. Let that piece of shit slide into obscurity.
*roll into obscurity
I feel like virtually all of The Founding Fathers would have definitely moved to ban it except Ben Franklin, who would have vehemently opposed them.
This kinda supports but also detracts from the implications that follow from the OOP:
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The Founding Fathers would probably have largely agreed that such things should be banned.
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Why should we fawn over all of the opinions of people two centuries dead? Surely they got some things right and some things wrong, yes?
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I mean, set aside the slavery politics for just a minute, because that’s low hanging fruit.
Imagine showing Thomas Jefferson the Hoover Dam. Imagine introducing Thomas Paine to the internet. Imagine George Washington’s face illuminated by a mushroom cloud. How fucking dumb do you think Benedict Arnold would feel if you dropped him onto the deck of a US Aircraft Carrier. How flabbergasted would James Madison feel if you explained that we literally call it the “White House”, because we never changed the color after the British burned it down. What do you think Patrick Henry would have to say about Social Security?
FFS,
What would Hamilton think about his musical?
“I should have thrown away my shot…”
He wpuld write 5000 blog posts about it.
Thomas Paine is the only one I could tolerate hanging out with. The rest are getting pushed back into the time machine and sent to the Devonian period.
The rest are getting pushed back into the time machine and sent to the Devonian period.
Great. Now the sudden appearance of invasive modern bacteria just caused a mass extinction in the Devonian, the entire history of life on earth is changed, and the dominant life form is an amphibian of roughly chimpanzee intelligence.
Sounds like progress
I mean, the smell alone would be pretty horrible
Hey now, Paine would be a monster on TikTok
How fucking dumb do you think Benedict Arnold
Who?
He would be very interested in the very mature milf and gilf sections we have available.
My favorite writing from any founding father is Ben Franklin writing to a younger friend urging them to take an older mistress. My man had an 8 point presentation on the virtues of fucking older ladies. My favorite saying from this is " In the dark, all cats are grey".
"Because they have more Knowledge of the world, and their Minds are better stored with Observations; their conversation is more improving, and more lastingly agreeable. "
"Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Man, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a thousand Services, small and great, and are the most tender and useful of Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an Old Woman who is not a good Woman. "
"Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced may be attended with much inconvenience. "
"Because through more Experience they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your reputation; and regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be inclined to excuse an old Woman, who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his manners by her good Councils, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes. "
"Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part. The Face first grows lank and Wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower parts continuing to the last as plump as ever; so that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old one from a young one. And as in the Dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of Corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal and frequently superior; every Knack being by Practice capable by improvement. "
"Because the sin is less. The Debauching of a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her Life unhappy. "
“Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend making an old Woman happy.”
“8th & lastly. They are so grateful!!!”
“Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced may be attended with much inconvenience. ".
Lol preach brother
Benjamin Franklin cries in heaven anytime you use a hundred dollar bill to pay child support. Should have just had sex with a woman of experience. Why do we not heed the wisdom of our forefathers?
Ben was a playa, no doubt about it.
Oh my god this is gold :))) He’s totally talking about 55-60+ My man was a horny philosopher
In contrast to our current leadership that sells vulnerable young children to fill this same desire.
New headcannon: that’s the ORIGIN of the saying, so anyone who uses it owes a piece of their vocabulary to Benny F’s GILF fetish 😄
Not the origin, but he did further popularize it by using it a bit more literally than anyone before. The first use of it in literature was in Don Quixote.
Too late!
I’m gonna continue believing that nobody said it until the inventor of bifocal glasses and a kind of stove tried to convince a peer to fuck old women! 😁
They would be horrified about the lack of slavery, women having rights, that we didn’t completely wipe out the natives and stuff like that the founders were monsters.
Pretty sure that’s what Madison Cawthorn’s saying
Imagine looking up to slavers from hundreds of years ago as your moral compass 🤮
Ben Franklin owned seven slaves early in his life, but later got rid of them, became an outspoken critic of slavery, and worked toward its abolition.
Also, slavery or not, the point still stands. They wouldn’t recognize America today and would be horrified.
Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.
If nothing would shock your ancestors, you have stagnated.
FYI, I recognise America and am also horrified, if that helps.
Of what?
There was a transgender Royal Governor of New York State.
Edward Hyde, served 1702 to 1708.
You’d know that if you actually studied US history.
You immediately assumed they held a position opposite of yours for no reason and then speak condescendingly to them, why? Maybe they think the founding fathers would be horrified by the same things you are horrified by. And even if they didn’t, they aren’t defending them, just stating the fact that they would indeed be horrified.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Cawthorn
Funny thing. I happen to own an electronic device that allows me to search a thing called ‘the world wide webbing.’
Using my advanced OKJeeves search engine, I learned something about Ms. Crawford.
One thing I learned about Ms. Crawford is that they don’t think we should respect other people’s preferred personal pronouns, so to honor that I’ll refer to them as ‘Ms.’
More condescending commentary… ok?
Who is this person, and why do I care about them? And if they’re so important, and you’re so clever, why can’t you keep their name consistent in your own comment?
Edit: he’s the guy in the OP. Again, what does that really have to do with anything? A different person in the comment section said, “the founding fathers would still be horrified”. Why are you using someone else’s beliefs to justify your rude attitude toward someone who never even implied they share those beliefs?
why can’t you keep their name consistent in your own comment?
You seem confused. I referred to Ms. Crawford twice, and both times as ‘Ms. Crawford.’
Also, your edit is as confusing a jumble as I’ve ever read. I have no idea what you’re unhappy about.
Finally, I didn’t ‘assume’ anything. I’ve run across Ms. Crawford’s comments in the past, and happened to remember the name. I guess I overestimated you; I should have added an ‘/s’ but I thought the using the terms ‘worldwidewebbing’ and ‘OKJeeves’ would convey my sarcastic intent.
Cawthorn
Crawford
My point is that your original comment was not to Cawthorn. It was to someone completely different. Cawthorn could have a swastika in his profile picture and call for the extinction of all trans people and it wouldn’t justify your being rude to some random guy online who said, “yeah the founding fathers would be horrified”.
You’re acting like you’re talking directly to the OP and responding directly to Cawthorn’s tweet, when you’re not.
Finally, I didn’t ‘assume’ anything. I’ve run across Ms. Crawford’s comments in the past, and happened to remember the name.
I’m not saying you’re assuming Cawthorn’s position. I’m saying you’re assuming Dookieman12’s position. What do Cawthorn’s past comments have to do with the person you’re actually responding to?
“Bonomi concluded that Lord Cornbury’s crossdressing was likely invented by his political enemies as character assassination.”
“They were roommates!”
Sometimes it’s a “Sappho and her friend” situation, but it sounds like this guy was just a straight crook.
And…?
My point was that the Founders would have been familiar with the idea of transgender. Also, most of them had studied the Classics, and would have known about Sappho and the initiation rituals of the Spartan warriors.
Homosexualism* wasn’t invented in the 20th Century.
*I can’t find the video, but I once heard William F. Buckley use that word and it’s lived in my head ever since.
… and your statement is totally false.
Were you there?
Of what?
There was a transgender Royal Governor of New York State.
This may come as a shock to you, but the existence of trans people is not the only significant change that has happened here since the 1700s.
the existence of trans people is not the only significant change that has happened here since the 1700s.
Even then, those slavers would still hate the MAGA movement.
Simply based on the fact that most of them consider themselves christian yet have never actually read the bible.
He’s definitely watching the GILF category.
He’s having some trouble deciding
- shy wife of shaker priest next door gets spitroasted by two high degree free masons
- candle-making spinster has 9 trembling orgasms on her “custom wax figures”
Was he really an xhamster guy? I feel like he’d be the “I have an account on heavy-r” kind of guy.
What’s heavy-r?
The kilo of lead?
AI is fooled yet again
Dunno, he could be both 🤷🏻
wait till he learns about trans women
