Europeans should be self aware enough to recognize that the most devastating criticism of Trump are direct comparisons to historic European tyrants. And forget about Hitler or Mussolini. Donald Trump at his worst can’t even measure up to Leopold II.
That is an insane argument. You are saying anybody whose country went through a genocidal dictator can’t criticize Trump because he’s not as bad yet? WTF?
Not that they shouldn’t criticize — but the shear pretentiousness to come in and pretend it could never happen in their countries, when it already had.
Never mind that in those examples that they gave, none of them were elected like Trump was:
Hitler lost the election for president; but was later appointed as chancellor by the guy that won after political pressure;
Mussolini was appointed by the king after threats of paramilitary force;
Leopold II was a hereditary monarch
Sorry US bros. I like you and I love you depending on the days. But just like the French will never live down the white flag meme, you will never live down that you elected a pedophile fascist TWICE.
I mean, I didn’t elect him. The other stupid people did.
The problem with that argument, especially on Lemmy, is that… Well actually basically none of us voted for him, thus we didn’t elect him, he was just elected by the other people
I would give them a pass to shit on the people here who loudly and proudly scream that they did not vote at all. Depending on the communities that you focus on, you may get the impression that every Amercan on lemmy did not vote, and just want to piss and cry that they did not get the candidate (or communist revolution) that they preferred. Am American and voted for Kamala, not because I actively wanted her, but because you have to be pretty far gone to not be able to see she would have been better on EVERY front, INCULDING PALESTINE!
Idk if we can call first past the post, winner take all, electoral college, elections as comparable to most European elections. If anything, the US president is lawfully closer to a king than many modern democracies.
As a Brit I fucking hate the royal family and their soft power and their wealth, but I’d argue that Trump has more of both and is heading for more than a royal has had in a Western country in living memory.
Man’s not heading for anything but the grave lmao, have you seen him lately? 50/50 odds he dies of natural causes before the midterms, I bet they’ll try to weekend at Bernie’s him for at least a few days.
My preferred comparison is to Napoleon III. It’s not a perfect match, but provides a lot of comparisons: the attack on freedoms, the incompetent political appointees, the unwise foreign wars, the puffed-up overconfidence and the sheer mediocrity…
Europeans should be self aware enough to recognize that the most devastating criticism of Trump are direct comparisons to historic European tyrants. And forget about Hitler or Mussolini. Donald Trump at his worst can’t even measure up to Leopold II.
That is an insane argument. You are saying anybody whose country went through a genocidal dictator can’t criticize Trump because he’s not as bad yet? WTF?
Not that they shouldn’t criticize — but the shear pretentiousness to come in and pretend it could never happen in their countries, when it already had.
Never mind that in those examples that they gave, none of them were elected like Trump was:
Hitler lost the election for president; but was later appointed as chancellor by the guy that won after political pressure;
Mussolini was appointed by the king after threats of paramilitary force;
Leopold II was a hereditary monarch
Sorry US bros. I like you and I love you depending on the days. But just like the French will never live down the white flag meme, you will never live down that you elected a pedophile fascist TWICE.
I mean, I didn’t elect him. The other stupid people did.
The problem with that argument, especially on Lemmy, is that… Well actually basically none of us voted for him, thus we didn’t elect him, he was just elected by the other people
I would give them a pass to shit on the people here who loudly and proudly scream that they did not vote at all. Depending on the communities that you focus on, you may get the impression that every Amercan on lemmy did not vote, and just want to piss and cry that they did not get the candidate (or communist revolution) that they preferred. Am American and voted for Kamala, not because I actively wanted her, but because you have to be pretty far gone to not be able to see she would have been better on EVERY front, INCULDING PALESTINE!
Very slight difference to note. Leopold II was alive 150 years ago. Trump is alive today.
Also, Leopold II wasn’t elected once. Let alone twice
Idk if we can call first past the post, winner take all, electoral college, elections as comparable to most European elections. If anything, the US president is lawfully closer to a king than many modern democracies.
Ah yes. A whataboutism will make everything right. Maybe we should have sent some smarter guys back in 1492
They weren’t sending us their best, that’s for sure.
Right, Leopold II didn’t shit his pants
As a Brit I fucking hate the royal family and their soft power and their wealth, but I’d argue that Trump has more of both and is heading for more than a royal has had in a Western country in living memory.
Man’s not heading for anything but the grave lmao, have you seen him lately? 50/50 odds he dies of natural causes before the midterms, I bet they’ll try to weekend at Bernie’s him for at least a few days.
Right? Trump’s nothing but a Temu dictator that was actually elected into that position rather than a proper tyrant dictator.
The US can’t even do despotism right.
My preferred comparison is to Napoleon III. It’s not a perfect match, but provides a lot of comparisons: the attack on freedoms, the incompetent political appointees, the unwise foreign wars, the puffed-up overconfidence and the sheer mediocrity…