• Platypus@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    What do I do if the public transit is pretty good and the city is walkable, but all the jobs are in office parks 40 minutes out of town?

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      5 days ago

      Pester your politicians that they forgot a part of the walkable city. Either a walkable workplace or work from home.

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        4 days ago

        Hello, yes. I work in construction. I carry 50+lbs (23+kg) of tools and/or material to work (which constantly changes locations as buildings and projects finished being built).

        How do I fit into the walkable city plan?

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          I never claimed everyone could work from home. But I think you’ll agree, that your commute would probably become quicker and less stressful, if the majority of office workers could stay at home.
          Less traffic if you have to drive, less crowded public transport. As a side effect life in the city might also become less stressful, as the noise from traffic reduces.

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            I never assumed you meant that everyone should. I was just curious as to how my side of things would function in your concept. I have often had the same questions about the 32 hour workday for us blue collars. Often in our cases, the thing we’re lacking is time instead of being able to consolidate work.

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        5 days ago

        Define walkable.

        I can walk to literally everything I need in my daily life except my job, and the share of residents lucky enough to work in the city can walk or bike to those too. My city scores incredibly high in both walk and bike scores; this drives real estate prices up, which drives employers to the suburbs, and—wouldn’t you know it!—the cheapest places to build office parks are situated away from the commuter transit.

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            5 days ago

            The definition is not that difficult

            Idk if you’re trolling or just obstinate, but if you don’t explain the exact definition you are using, it is impossible to determine what meets it and what does not.

            For example:

            Walkability is a measure of how accessible services and amenities are by foot or transit. A city is walkable if a broad range of these are thusly available.

            • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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              Sure, your definition works. Your place of work is obviously included into the list of location that needs to be accessible, since it’s somewhere you commute to almost every day.

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                  5 days ago

                  That depends. If the one that is excluded is the majority of your destinations, I’d say it is in fact required to be walkable

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              4 days ago

              They’re not being obstinate. You are working very hard not to understand that your job has to be walkable too.

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            5 days ago

            Let me just walk my 315lb welder to work each morning. Can I borrow your kids radio flyer after you walked them to school?

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                4 days ago

                Have you ever heard the term welding rig? Gas /diesel welder? Self-employed? Field repair? Millwright ? Heavy equipment? Residential fence/gate repair. Structural? You know all those things that require mobile welding.

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                  Not in the context of any jobs that a person of any intelligence would consider “walkable”, no.

                  Since that’s what we were talking about, I presumed you were smart enough to understand that “walkable jobs” would exclude all of the things you just asked me about. I apologize for making undue assumptions about you.

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              5 days ago

              If only the only people that use cars on a daily basis were the ones that actually need to, maybe you wouldn’t be so bitter and angry about it.

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          Walkable: jobs, homes, and basic essentials shopping coexist near enough to each other.

          It’s not walkable if you only have 2 out of 3.