• DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    14 hours ago

    People keep ignoring the fact that Obama struck a deal with Iran that stopped their nuclear weapons program.

    Trump killed american troops to get a deal that’s worse than the one we already had.

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      13 hours ago

      that shit is making me crazy… why do I, random European dude, remember trump breaking the Iran deal all those years ago, and no fucking journalist today dares to put a wee little reminder at the beginning of every article just to get all up to speed? wtf man

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        Because western mainstream media has been captured by the same interests who are betting on oil futures right before Donnie Dipshit tweets about it

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        Prolly the same reason mainstream media “forgot” to mention Operation Cyclone back in late 2001 and early 2002, or how they intentionally swallowed the screamingly obvious bullshit of “Iraq has WMDs”

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      12 hours ago

      ah but you seem to ignore that obama was a secret kenyan. he was all sneaky about it, being born in hawaii the way he was.

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      The JCPOA (Obama‘s deal) wasn’t perfect and didn’t stop a nuclear weapon or nuclear enrichment for Iran. At best it delayed it for a decade. It also didn’t do anything about Iran ballistic missile program.

      In fact the same year the JCPOA was signed, Iran built a big public clock counting down to Israel‘s destruction in Palestine square. It would reach zero the year the JCPOA ended. So much for their peaceful intentions.

      The JCPOA only kicked the can down the road with the hope of a more sane government in Iran later on.

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        5 hours ago

        Sounds like right-wing misinformation to me.

        Just as a casual fact check, the JCPOA was signed into law in 2015 and the clock in Palestine square appeared in 2017

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        So what has improved about the situation since Trump threw out the JCPOA?

        “Not perfect” doesn’t mean it wasn’t batter then the current situation.

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          The JCPOA wasn’t great and mostly kicked the can down the road. Trump made the situation worse because he made diplomatic efforts much more difficult.

          The core issue is Iran‘s fundamentalist regime and their destructive desires and actions. That’s not Trump‘s fault. It’s an extremely difficult issue, that would have led to war sooner or later, without Iran changing their policies.

          tl;dr Trump bad. Iran worse.

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            So it would be accurate to say: despite JCPOA not being perfect, Trump’s actions have only made the situation worse than if he had left the previously existing agreement in place.

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        8 hours ago

        Iran built a big public clock counting down to Israel‘s destruction in Palestine square

        And Donald Trump swore up and down that Mexico would pay for the Wall.

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          Well the Iranian regime calls for the death and destruction of Israel daily and has for decades. They also have actively armed Hezbollah and others, as well as launched ballistic missiles at their cities.

          This is some silly rhetoric. It’s core to their Islamist ideology. They mean it.

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            8 hours ago

            Well the Iranian regime calls for the death and destruction of Israel daily and has for decades.

            The GOP has said that lower taxes for the rich will solve all of americia’s problems.

            People in power will say anything to keep going.

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              7 hours ago

              You’re saying that as if Iran‘s elections are worth anything. The regime is very unpopular among the population. Many even applauded and celebrated the Israeli and American air strikes.

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                So, we end up back at your original point.

                Obama’s plan was a huge step forward and could haven lead to real progress.

                Too bad Donnie had a bad day and blew it all up.