• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    It may be costly. It may be ineffective. And maybe I built my plantation in the least fertile place possible. And maybe I don’t know shit about farming. And maybe, possible, having slaves is a constant loss to me and my civilization.

    But damnit if I can’t use slavery to justify my racism, how will I feel like a big important man?!

    • Rooskie91@discuss.online
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      21 hours ago

      Using slave labor on stolen land actually yields pretty high returns.

      Also, like, you’ve seen this image before, right?

      They were definitely not using the least fertile places possible.

    • silver@das-eck.haus
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      2 days ago

      I know this is the shitposting Lemmy and historical accuracy isn’t the goal here … But you don’t honestly think they put plantations in infertile places and used slaves for no reason right? They made a shit ton of money

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        18 hours ago

        I know this is the shitposting Lemmy and historical accuracy isn’t the goal here … But you don’t honestly think they put plantations in infertile places and used slaves for no reason right? They made a shit ton of money

        Overall, you’re right, but I’d like to point out two caveats here:

        1. Southern plantation farming was incredibly inefficient and utterly ruined the land it was practiced on - something that was recognized (and criticized) as early as George Washington. So they did build their plantations in fertile areas, but exhausted the soil and did very little to let it recover until George Washington Carver (unrelated) started spreading crop rotations around ~1900.

        2. The aristocrats made a shitton of money relative to the average person, but they were much, much poorer - both individually and as a society - than the industrialized North. Northern farming, even, was much more efficient - but the Southern aristocracy perpetuated their system because control was more important than money. In the slavery (and sharecropping) system, the plantation class effectively ruled little fiefs of dependent ‘free’ farmers and unfree (legally or practically) Black labor, able to exercise wide-reaching control not just economically, but also socially, culturally, and politically. Given the choice between more luxury or more power, they chose more power, and used that power to perpetuate their sickened systems.

        • silver@das-eck.haus
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          6 hours ago

          I agree with those points. It’s certainly all about control.

          I think what bugs me in the original comment is the implication that slavery existed just to justify racism, instead of racism being used as a justification for keeping up the system of slavery.