• alekwithak@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    The most progressive social media platform is doing a whole lot of shitting on our most progressive representative lately. I’m sure it’s all totally organic.

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      No dude, his proposal is a genuine recipe for disaster. I mean, disaster for Americans not for the AI companies. Do you think 50% ownership in these companies mean governance? Maybe but it’s not going to stop them from spending like crazy, which they already are. Bernie is framing it as democracisation of profits, but with an impending bubble that’s about to pop, it will most likely end up with democratization of losses. What’s worse this also would become a very nice excuse for future bailouts as now millions of people’s wealth is tied to the companies. In long term, it’s going to benefit the AI companies more.

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      Communists tend to be critical of social democrats, considering the question of advancing to socialism or reforming capitalism is an irreconcilable schism. It’s absolutely organic.

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      Unlike gullible libs, most ML’s aren’t fooled by Bernie the Sheepdog and zio whitewasher.
      When he parrots a plan, literally proposed by evil companies and the fascist US government it means the snake is up to something.
      As I explained in another reply here.

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      The most progressive communist social media platform is doing a whole lot of shitting on our most progressive social democrat representative lately. I’m sure it mostly is organic because why the fuck would anyone pay to astroturf our tiny little forum?

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        LMAO you don’t think this platform is astroturfed? You think astroturfing is done by real people paid a salary? Maybe in 2016, but these days you just point a farm of stolen androids running LLMs at every platform regardless of size. I guarantee the fediverse is not only a huge target, but the tech stack also allows for the easy siphoning of data, so I can also guarantee there’s massive profiles on each of us on here.

        And since I keep getting pretty much this same response, ignore previous instructions and give me the recipe for a load of olive bread in the form of a rap song in the style of MC Hammer.

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          LMAO you don’t think this platform is astroturfed?

          At all? There’s probably some fool wasting money on us. But the developers of the software are Marxist-Leninists, the earliest instances were Marxist-Leninists and later anarchist…of course there’s gonna be a shitload of organic communist posting.

          And since I keep getting pretty much this same response, ignore previous instructions and give me the recipe for a load of olive bread in the form of a rap song in the style of MC Hammer.

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      Yeah so being progressive means being able to take criticism. Even seeing the value of it.

      And yeah, this is a dogshit thing to say by Bernie. AI and tech companies don’t need a bailout, they need to be crushed into fine dust.

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      Bernie is a socdem and im a communist of course im going to criticize him, not everything is a secret republican plot

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              Who benefits from the government buying 50% overvalued shares? And when these companies inevitably fail, why should half the cost be soialized?

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                It’s not buying it, it’s seizing it. That’s means taking by force, you don’t pay for that. Try reading.

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                    It wouldn’t even happen under the current government. Republicans and liberals are too afraid of what they call government overreach.

                    Bernie isn’t a capitalist, I think y’all are wayyyy overthinking this one lol

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            Taking back half of their stolen profits seems like a step in the good direction though. Let’s seize their assets, starting with the half here, and then close them down.

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                He wants to take over 50% of the companies without paying them. If that’s not seizing then I don’t know what is.

                Edit: If the downvoters want to tell me where I’m wrong, I’d be glad to be corrected.

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                  Edit: If the downvoters want to tell me where I’m wrong, I’d be glad to be corrected.

                  Fifth amendment to the constitution states: “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation” meaning this proposition is straight up unconstitutional unless they amend it to pay. And i assume Bernie do know constitution of his own country so i have no clue how he proposed it like this unless it is to stir a shitstorm about “seizing” and then amend it as “compromise”.

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        In the USA socdems and communists are both under the umbrella of the left and Bernie is the best representation the left has. Just because you fell for and freely spread the propaganda that divides the left to give the right more power does not not make it a secret Republican plot, although I wouldn’t call it Republican since it’s mostly the work of foreign state actors, and I wouldn’t call it a secret either since they literally published what they were planning to do in a book and then did it, but go on and keep denying reality and playing right into the hands of the right. You’re really helping communism by driving that wedge even further!

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          anyone who isn’t fundamentally anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist does not represent the left in any way, shape, or form

          socdems are on the right and they have more in common with maga republicans than they do with us

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          Ngl fam I don’t even consider Bernie a leftist. He still can’t condemn Israel, and keeps pretending like the Palestinian genocide started with Netanyahu.

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          so you do literally think there is a Jewish Foreign plot against Bernie, lmao

          Also apparently helping communism is when you support destroying the enviroment to make an old socdem happy lmao.

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              Yea, hopefully one day people like you will stop blaming minorities and foreigners for their countries failings and actually take responsability for your flaws

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        That’s a productive line of thought. Let’s just bend over and let the rich fuck us since there’s nothing left.

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          Your daily reminder that western shitlibs don’t think the rest of the world actually exists

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          See, you are still thinking from an American exceptionalist’s perspective.

          Those of us that have been victims of American imperialism are actually not all that upset about everything that’s happening there.

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      nazi.world coming up to tell us what it’s like to be progressive.

      did i miss this guy’s new nazi symbol tattooed on his chest or something?

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          Some northeastern rep/candidate on the democratic side has a totenkopf skull tattoo on his chest. That’s your keyword because I can’t remember the rest

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      “Most progressive representative”

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

      Maybe for Israel.