I know that. No one is saying you as an individual need to do this right now. We are saying you need to organize. I think this is a cultural misunderstanding.
When I say ‘you’ I am not referring to an individual. Im referring to you as a people. Maybe that misunderstanding is evidence of the hyper individualism your country has subtly snuck into your lives that prevents you (again a collective you) from doing so.
I moved back because my family is here. What the fuck are you on about? It had fuck all to do with Trump. I moved back during Biden. Are you seriously upset because I wanted to be with my family?
Not once did you advocate for a violent solution. You’re right, it’s either nothing or an extreme with these people, and excuses at every point.
They have enough to do a national peaceful shutdown. 60% in the urban areas for two weeks, which is hardly enough time to starve or be evicted, and at those numbers after it’s done, it’ll be impossible to replace that many jobs or go through with the evictions.
You’re right. Churchill was right, let them pile on…if they showed this much unity piling on the way they do to the mirror across social networks toward a national shutdown, solving their problems and voting for fucks sake, they’d solve this.
If they turned out to vote at 80-90% all the time, there’d be daylight between them and the current best performing democracies in the world.
Well said, thank you. I put these opinions forward knowing theyll be unpopular but if even the smallest seed can be planted from it its a success in my book.
I dont mind being piled on. People need to hear hard things even if it makes them angry and lash out.
Not upset with you at all, nor do I blame you for wanting to be with your family. Just as I don’t blame the many Americans who are prioritizing the immediate needs of their families.
But you are giving yourself the grace and understanding that you have repeatedly refused to give to others.
Call me a cunt, get offended, run with “the only moral excuse is my excuse” narrative all you want. But it would do you some good to realize your reasons to move are not so different from the people you are condemning.
I know that. No one is saying you as an individual need to do this right now. We are saying you need to organize. I think this is a cultural misunderstanding.
When I say ‘you’ I am not referring to an individual. Im referring to you as a people. Maybe that misunderstanding is evidence of the hyper individualism your country has subtly snuck into your lives that prevents you (again a collective you) from doing so.
What did you think I meant by, “we are not a united people”?
You can’t organize peace with people who idealize a fascist society
I mean sure, ignore the protests from earlier this year where millions turned out across the nation, but sure…
You dont need everyone to mount a resistance. Why does it have to be all or nothing? And who said you had to organize peace with fascists?
You need enough, and we don’t even have that.
Come live here for a while and then tell me how easy it is.
I have lived there. Ive been involved in community action during the first administration. If you believe its impossible, youve already lost.
So you could have stayed and fought… but you left and are now yelling from the sidelines.
I agree with a lot of your points, but it rings a bit disingenuous coming from someone who threw in the towel.
exactly bro.
The fascists N.E.V.E.R. throw in the towel.
We all must be as willing to be unrelenting like them.
I moved back because my family is here. What the fuck are you on about? It had fuck all to do with Trump. I moved back during Biden. Are you seriously upset because I wanted to be with my family?
Stop being a cunt.
I’ll add to what Valmond said.
Not once did you advocate for a violent solution. You’re right, it’s either nothing or an extreme with these people, and excuses at every point.
They have enough to do a national peaceful shutdown. 60% in the urban areas for two weeks, which is hardly enough time to starve or be evicted, and at those numbers after it’s done, it’ll be impossible to replace that many jobs or go through with the evictions.
You’re right. Churchill was right, let them pile on…if they showed this much unity piling on the way they do to the mirror across social networks toward a national shutdown, solving their problems and voting for fucks sake, they’d solve this.
If they turned out to vote at 80-90% all the time, there’d be daylight between them and the current best performing democracies in the world.
Can you ELI5 all of that cause Im lost , sorry .
Well said, thank you. I put these opinions forward knowing theyll be unpopular but if even the smallest seed can be planted from it its a success in my book.
I dont mind being piled on. People need to hear hard things even if it makes them angry and lash out.
You draw a lot of anger here in the thread it seems, but you’re correct IMO.
Cheers.
They are, and more of us need to get behind these commenters when the Americans pile on them.
Not upset with you at all, nor do I blame you for wanting to be with your family. Just as I don’t blame the many Americans who are prioritizing the immediate needs of their families.
But you are giving yourself the grace and understanding that you have repeatedly refused to give to others.
Call me a cunt, get offended, run with “the only moral excuse is my excuse” narrative all you want. But it would do you some good to realize your reasons to move are not so different from the people you are condemning.
“Of course I have a valid reason for inaction, but what about the 330 million other people? Surely everyone else’s lives are disposable?”
Pretty much hust this↑
Thank you.
I never said impossible. I was also involved in a lot of community action during Trump’s first admin.
See how far that got us?