• Mantzy81@aussie.zone
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    3 days ago

    Honestly I wouldn’t touch Apple products with a bargepole. I dislike closed ecosystems

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      3 days ago

      I always end up with MacBooks after startups and love to have something I can just pick up and use whereas my PC is my command center. Most of my shit is web or local web services so just need a Mozilla terminal. Also, I can’t fathom buying one out of pocket. I’ve also never had an iPhone, it doesn’t make sense to my brain.

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        3 days ago

        So…if you’re just using web stuff, you could probably save a heap by using a Chromebook. That’s what my wife’s personal laptop is and is perfect for web stuff (and has the option of Android apps too, like Mozilla). It’s not her only computer though.

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      3 days ago

      You’d rather be spied on constantly by the largest panopticon ever created, because they allow sideloading.

      Honestly this is voting for Trump over Kamala; we need a viable alternative. Why have they taken personal computing from us?

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        3 days ago

        You can deGoogle Android if you want, hopefully better alternatives, that don’t suck, like Linux Phone™ 🙏 arrive before too long.

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            3 days ago

            other options besides graphene exist, like lineage OS that work on a ton of different phones. and sure graphene requires google hardware but nobody says you have to buy the hardware from google direct. buying used is different than buying from google

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              It’s also an option many people would be fine with. I’m okay with Google having my money. Paying companies for products is perfectly fine. I just don’t want them to have my data and invade my privacy

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        3 days ago

        No, I’d rather use my device like I want to use my device instead of how I’m told to use it. I don’t need to sideload on this device but glad I can if and when I want to. I prefer having a computer with me rather than a purposely stunted device kept that way to sell other devices in the ecosystem.

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          You say it’s purposely stunted, I say it has guardrails that saves me hours and hours of family IT support time un-fucking my elderly parents phones. This was something I’d have to do every single time I was home when we had android phones.

          I would dump Apple in a heartbeat if something better existed. They’re not good but they’re the best for my personal scenario of the current options.

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            3 days ago

            You really shouldn’t be so downvoted for sharing your experience. While not ideal it’s valid and understandable.

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              2 days ago

              It happens if you express any positive sentiment towards Apple. I don’t give a shit, downvotes matter not.

              I don’t need my phone to be a completely open computer, I have a computer and a server for that. I need a communications appliance, and since I’m the family IT guy, I need the lowest bullshit device my boomer parents can operate. My parents are not going to run some high privacy custom ROM because I’m not going to troubleshoot their problems. I realize that those ROMs are objectively better if you’re only considering the phone, but I basically have to manage a fleet of devices, and it’s easier troubleshooting if I’m also using the same. I don’t love Apple, it’s just easier.

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        Were being spied on regardless, better to choose the option that allows one to do the most with it. If I could throw together my own phone and run a Linux variant on then I fucken would, but as it phone hardware is ass and Linux mobile doesn’t exist for my phone.

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          You can’t logic people out of an emotional decision. The hatred of Apple runs deep.

          The obviousness of this is how Android users troll Apple discussions but Apple users don’t troll Android discussions.

          They have insanely strong opinions on what other’s choices that it borderline religious.

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            The terminally online Apple cultists bully other people all the time. I mean you’re literally doing it right now while also blatantly lying about it.

            Android has orders of magnitude more users than apple and the vast majority couldn’t care less what phone someone uses.

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              21 hours ago

              This is a discussion about apple not android.

              Pointing out a behavior trend isn’t bullying.

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        3 days ago

        So you’d rather be spies on by the formerly largest panopticon ever created AND not be able to side load?

        If you think Apple is some paragon of privacy you might want to do some research on that lol.