What I’m telling you now is part of my families personal history as ordinary workers who supported the Social Democratic party in the late 19th and early 20th century People did feel betrayed by the social democrats when they supported the first world war. I know that my family members thought that universal suffrage and the ability to vote for a party that said they had the workers best interests at heart would usher in a better world. For them there definitely a utopian aspect to socialism. After the first world war my great grandparents were like fuck that shit, they felt betrayed and didn’t bother joining the communist party anymore.

Did some edits just to make my writing less shitty.

Italy always had a very strong communist and anarchist movement though, the communist party was a major political force in Italy until the 1990s. I don’t really get your point, there were also numerous attempts to reform the system before it reached the state of decline that it did. Hell plenty of people didn’t even want the USSR to stop existing they just wanted some economic reforms, there were enough sharks who smelt the blood in the water though and realised they could make a killing by selling out their country and their people.

🫠 got `em

And I did, it’s also important to not white wash everything because it harms the cause more than it helps nothing caused more disillusionment in socialism than people being betrayed by the party which promised them a utopia, I have family who were socialists since the 1890s, and the first betreyal happened when they got sent to the front in WW1 that was already enough for some people to be like fuck this shit.

Oh I believe it without a doubt but I also believe that this fueled excessive paranoia and plenty of innocent people were screwed over, the cold war was fucking stupid, and the fact that capitalist countries still can’t stand any country being socialist is also fucking stupid but the paranoia that the siege creates can definitely have negative consequences for people living in socialist countries and IMO is a huge source of the authoritarian nature of socialist States more than there being any intrinsic authoritarian nature to socialism, I’ve seen the same thing happen in small socialist orgs.

Edit Exploiting this paranoid aspect was also a way the FBI used to wreck revolutionary groups, the black panthers come to mind.

I use open suse. It’s fine https://news.opensuse.org/2025/01/16/gaming-on-linux-how-os-stacks-up/

And one of the suggestions was you’re not aloud to make fun of politicians smh…otherwise it was a pretty great constitution.

No I think its just terminally online left shit, I’ve read about enough weird maoists and other left wing groups that ended up being tools of empire as well.

It’s mostly just online left bullshit though because most anarchists who organise IRL with communists get along fine.

After working for the DNC for free for years and most of my calls being right, they can suck my fucking dick never again the amount of fucking consulting fees other people squeezed out of those pricks meanwhile I’m basically unemployable because of my politics, I’m not even a fucking american.