• the_q@piefed.social
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    12 days ago

    Which is more logical: some supernatural, indefinable thing or cold finality?

    You can’t prove either, but one is foundational to shared delusions that drives commerce, hatred and war while the other is just peace.

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        12 days ago

        Explain how it’s a deity. I don’t worship it. It doesn’t give me purpose. It’s not a comfort.

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          12 days ago

          You pushed the inexplicable, the black box, into a system. Deities/the unknown forces come in all kinds of shapes and formats, not only judeochristian / abrahamic. Maybe it’s not a deity, but it’s where the magic we can’t explain happens. We need axioms for anything, dude. I’m not anti-science, I just think all belief and knowledge is necessarily based in things that cannot be proven… and that’s ok.

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            11 days ago

            We don’t need axioms for empiricism. That’s the entire point. We ask questions of physical reality and infer limited and verifiable knowledge from the results, without ever stating that anything has been proven.

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                11 days ago

                That is why empiricism relies on sensory information.
                So you don’t need axioms for empiricism, just to be clear. Your saying “actually” could make it look like you’re disagreeing, when you’re actually not.

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          12 days ago

          the other is just peace.

          That sounds a lot like you consider it a comfort.

          Nothing isn’t peace, it’s nothing.