cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/34255100

Thought I’d create a distinct thread from the previous one asking about daily use, because I really do want to hear more on people’s pain points. Great to know people are generally sounding pretty positive in those posts who recently switched, but want to know your difficulties as well! This way old and new users can share their thoughts, hopefully to inspire a respectful discussion.

  • Nalincah@feddit.org
    46·
    7 days ago

    Leaving Standby. Can’t count the times I’ve opened my laptop to just see a black screen. Hard reset was the only option

    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      8·
      6 days ago

      I’m going to be honest, as a long time Linux user I also think this is one of those issues that is more common than it should be. It’s incredibly annoying and really pushes you away from using it as your daily driver.

      Btw, check your last boot’s log with sudo journalctl -e -b -1 to see what its dying words were. If you’re lucky it’s dying when coming back up and spitting the related errors in red, but sometimes it will just be “Reached target sleep” in which case it’s a bit of a bitch to troubleshoot. You can look through the logs to see if any error might be related, but if you’re not well versed in Linux it might as well be an alien language. Common suspects: Nvidia, Bluetooth, encrypted swap or RAM, ACPI bugs, BIOS needs an update.

  • marcie (she/her)@lemmy.ml
    12·
    7 days ago

    I think security wise linux can do better, I’d like to see more isolation of processes. I find accessibility is lacking as well, particularly translation and ocr software. I think this is actually something local visual ai models would be very good at but are not leveraged for in open source.

        • sunth1ef@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          6 days ago

          I’m on Kinoite for a host of reasons but one reason I chose an atomic distros was isolation / containerizatoon. I’ll take a look at what secure blue adds and see if I can manually implement any of that in Kinoite

  • FierroG@lemmy.world
    5·
    6 days ago

    • A udev rule that won’t work in my new distro (cachyos) for no apparent reason when it worked fine everywhere else

    • Obs using way too much cpu for no reason even in a clean setup at idle

    • Having to select what window will be captured to the obs canvas every time

    • Having to swap active audio outputs until volume stops being too low at every restart.

    That’s about all of it, I think.

  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
    3·
    5 days ago

    A recent update added 104ms to my boot time and I am SEETHING and will get to the bottom of this and make those responsible pay dearly.

  • Tantheiel@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    6 days ago

    Minor issue is the vulken shaders that load before I play a game. Most of the time it’s quick and only done after an update but some games do take a long time.

    Also having issues where Wine freezes up when running applications. Sometimes for close to two minutes before responding. I haven’t looked into this one yet as it just happened recently.

    Bazzite with Nvidia GPU of this matters.

    Non pain point not having the system install updates during my “focus” time and bringing the system to a crawl until I let it finish.

    • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world
      1·
      6 days ago

      With the advancements in wine and proton, I’ve found a lot of games do well with adding -dx11 or -dx12 in the launch options.

      Maybe a ticket could be made about considering changing the default for one of those programs

      • FatVegan@leminal.space
        1·
        6 days ago

        My friends play the finals and arc raiders and i tried both games on linux and they worked fine. Suddenly after an update both of the games (same developer) just don’t load anymore. They work if i dorce dx11 on them, but run like shit.

  • pathos@lemmy.ml
    141·
    7 days ago

    Linux kernel or distros?

    Assuming distros, my pain point is that it is not popular. For Linux to actually take over, UI/UX for everything without a single touch of CLI (akin to Windows and Mac OS) needs to be normalised. And everything just needs to work (see LTT), be snappy/instant (looking at you file browsers, Firefox, etc.), and use established behavioural norms within Windows and Mac (looking at you middle click paste, and it not being a universal scroll) as basics. Just give any distro to any Asian population. They won’t even be able to figure out how to type their own language as if they are exiting Vim.

    • mech@feddit.org
      7·
      7 days ago

      For Linux to actually take over, UI/UX for everything without a single touch of CLI needs to be normalised. And everything just needs to work, be snappy/instant, and use established behavioural norms as basics.

      I wish an OS like this existed.

    • synestia@lemmy.ml
      2·
      6 days ago

      and use established behavioural norms within Windows and Mac

      Even when they fucking suck some times?

    • fizzle@quokk.auEnglish
      4·
      7 days ago

      I hear you. Kinda by design though. Its supposed to be difficult for containered applications to interact.

      I think i installed keepassxc native. Then some config magic I’ve forgotten.

      • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
        1·
        7 days ago

        Yeah, it’s not the worst thing in the world, just makes things awkward.

        I do really like the idea of flatpack, I’m 110% in on containers, probably too much. There are just compromises that ned to be made today.

      • GlenRambo@jlai.luEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        I use LibreWolf and that was flat pack. It seemed I needed the PAA(?) Version of it so that keep ass could interact with it.

      • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
        1·
        6 days ago

        I have 1password and it’s just a pain setting it up with browsers.

        Then the CLI integration is janky and doesn’t work unless the desktop is on.

  • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    8·
    6 days ago

    Just wanted to say this is a nice thread, thanks OP for starting it and everyone for participating :)

    Gives me nostalgia for the “tech support” category in forums. We should really really bring them back, they’re not well suited to “aggregator” platforms like Lemmy/Reddit or messaging applications like Discord

  • dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza
    81·
    6 days ago

    Things have gotten A LOT better since I started using it, but here’s a list of things I hate after using Arch with KDE as my main OS for almost 7 years:

    • Not having an archive manager as good as 7-zip was on Windows. Ark is a good replacement but it supports less formats, has less options when compressing, and most importantly if you close the archive while extracting it silently fails (reported in 2019, still not fixed)
    • You can’t make an account without a password (yes, I know I can configure the sudoers file and polkit to skip password prompts, but that’s not user friendly). For the average user, having to type the password after login is incredibly annoying, I would like to have something like the UAC prompt in Windows
    • Wayland: it was made mainstream waaaay too early, causing a lot of issues with both Qt and GTK applications, some of which persist to this day, especially with fractional scaling and HDR
    • Developers seem to think that I enjoy using the terminal: I don’t, I hate it. Why isn’t there a GUI for pacman supports the AUR and doesn’t suck?
    • Random broken commits being pushed to stable. I’m talking about “how the f did you not notice this?” kind of bugs, like how I had to rename files twice in Dolphin before it would actually rename them. It was fixed quickly but how did this get into stable in the first place?
    • Flatpak having its old ass version of mesa in the runtime, causing all sorts of issues if you have a newly released GPU. I stopped using it because of this
    • mech@feddit.org
      20·
      6 days ago

      Running Arch when you hate the terminal and want stability is quite the mood.

      • dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza
        2·
        6 days ago

        What can I say, I’m a sucker for punishment 😂

        I like having the latest (or at least recent) hardware so having the latest kernel and mesa is a must.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      Developers don’t think you enjoy using the terminal. It’s just the option that works with the most systems with the least explanation. They can just give you a command to copy/paste instead of a tutorial on what buttons to click, assuming you even have that.

      There are GUIs for package managers. I haven’t used one, because I feel like there’s no need, but they do exist. I don’t know if they support the AUR and pacman though. That probably exists, but you’ll have to look it up.

    • ashx64@lemmy.world
      2·
      6 days ago

      7-zip does have a linux CLI, which works well.

      The most basic command you need to use is 7zz x archive-name to extract an archive. Building a GUI around it doesn’t seem like it would be too much trouble honestly, wonder if anyone has done that.

  • ian@feddit.ukEnglish
    6·
    6 days ago

    Plasma apps don’t navigate to network shares. So backup sync is not possible for non IT people. Even though Dolphin can easily access those shares. No backup is quite a showstopper. There is no easy way to permanently mount shares either.

      • ian@feddit.ukEnglish
        5·
        6 days ago

        I’m looking for a solution that non IT users can easily do.They will not discover that, or know exactly what to type in. This is something that should be very easy for people. It really needs a setting or command in a Dolphin menu.

        • doodoo_wizard@lemmy.ml
          3·
          6 days ago

          In my experience a lot of non it people have used computers with text interfaces and don’t have any problem with things like fstab but I understand what you’re saying.

          • ian@feddit.ukEnglish
            1·
            6 days ago

            It’s in our interest to have good usability to encourage Linux use for a broader range of people. Mounting needs to be discoverable, and done in a few clicks. Command line, and typing magic words into fstab is a definite no-no for people who never work that way for everything else they do.

            The strange thing is, why did KDE miss this critical step for backups?

            • doodoo_wizard@lemmy.ml
              1·
              5 days ago

              I’m swiftly moving into the sparsely populated camp which holds that it’s not actually in our interests. Maybe the bell labs people were the good path and were walking parcs bad path now. We’re gonna find out for sure!

              Idk how kde missed it, they’re probably taking fixes, why not whip something up?

              • ian@feddit.ukEnglish
                1·
                4 days ago

                I wouldn’t wish Windows 11 on anyone. More people on linux means better driver support and more main applications. And better open standards support.

                I’ve reported it several times. KDE just keep closing it as a duplicate of a totally different bug.

  • teashape@lemmy.mlEnglish
    7·
    6 days ago

    Using Mint for some years now, there are two main pain points for me. Both do not stop me from using Mint as my daily operating system, but they reduce convenience.

    Default package repositories contain software versions that are long outdated (e.g. tmux, claws mail, neovim, libreoffice). Although this can usually be fixed by custom ppa or manual installation it decreases the benefits of a default package repository and causes additional maintenance efforts.

    Laptop hardware / driver issues:

    • When using nvidia graphics driver, FN+Fx keys do not change display brightness (although brightness hud is shown). When using xorg driver instead, these work, but the input for unlocking my luks volume at boot freezes and I cannot enter the password.
    • FN+Fx does not enable/disable touchpad. I was able to fix this with a custom script and keybinding.
    • Keyboard lighting cannot be controlled by OpenRGB and some other tools I tried, because the specific keyboard is not supported (yet?).
  • Boneses@lemmy.zip
    5·
    6 days ago

    My bazzite PC in my living room stopped recognizing the Bluetooth built into my motherboard which is annoying but easily worked around with a USB Bluetooth dongle.

  • tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de
    1·
    5 days ago

    I’m running endevourOS with KDM and there are some major issues with bluetooth…I can’t get some devices to connect (e.g my keychrone Keyboard, and Cricut plotter)

    I still have to disable my wireless mouse, when I hibernate, because I couldn’t be bothered to adapt the udev rules to disallow the mouse to trigger the pc to start

    And finaly, I just got back into X4 Foundation and my HOTAS setup depends on which device is recognized first…either its correct, or the controls are swapped (stuff that should be on the joystick is on the thrustmaster and vice versa)…un- and replugging in the correct order fixes this, but one wod think that it would lock the controls to a fixed device identifier