Investigators recovered two stolen trailers carrying $1.3 million in data center supplies, including copper wire and infrastructure equipment.
Investigators recovered two stolen trailers carrying $1.3 million in data center supplies, including copper wire and infrastructure equipment.
I’m not asking you to care. What I’m saying is that you’re morally inept by not caring. Either you admonish theft across the board or you don’t. People are stealing from someone else regardless of who they are.
You don’t have to care, you’re just wrong.
Not a fan of Robin Hood, then?
One of my favorite movies is Robin Hood Men in tights.
It’s like the old airplane movies every time you watch it, you find a new joke.
Theft is too vague to be given a blanket right/wrong verdict for all situations.
Failure to recognise nuance is morally inept.
We have courts and juries specifically because morality is not a hard rule.
This particular tack definitely seems to be the main flavor of responses to my comment at this point.
It is a really strange logical conclusion that many of you have arrived at.
What it sounds like you’re saying is that if the theft is morally correct, then it is somehow no longer theft and is perfectly justified. That is a very strange argument to make in the first place.
That is not how morality works. That is not how anything works.
If a starving person steals bread, they may have a morally compelling justification for their actions. We can debate whether that theft was ethically permissible under those circumstances. But they still committed theft. The act itself does not magically stop being theft because we understand or sympathize with the reason behind it.
The distinction between whether an action is understandable, justified, or morally excusable has been debated since the time of the Greeks.
What? By that definition nothing is theft unless ruled such by a court. Which funnily also means that if someone takes anything but doesn’t get caught, they haven’t committed theft?
Ergo any corporation powerful enough cannot commit any crimes, due to not being sentenced.
That’s bullshit and you know it.
This isn’t about if the guys stealing the copper committed a crime or not. Obviously they removed property without consent, which is theft.
However, is there such thing as “good” crime? Yes. Same as the mother stealing formula for her baby, or the homeless person stealing bread, or these guys stealing copper from AI data centres.
No, what people are saying is that not all theft is wrong. It depends on the circumstances. Is that really so hard to comprehend?
I’m okay with not meeting your strict black and white standard of morality. In fact, I find it immoral. “You stole bread because you were starving?? You’re EVIL!!”
We’re not talking about people stealing bread because they’re hungry. We’re talking about people stealing millions of dollars worth of construction materials for personal gain.
Do you really think the thieves stealing those materials from AI data centers are morally justified by their actions?
I’ll even go one step further and fully admit that I don’t have a simple defense for someone stealing food because they’re starving. That situation is morally complicated and can absolutely be debated from a philosophical perspective. But justice is blind for a reason. We can acknowledge the circumstances behind a crime, show compassion toward the person committing it, and still recognize that the act itself is theft.
I’m not sure we can apply that same reasoning to organized theft of millions of dollars in construction materials.
Also, you’re the third person to tell me I’m being “black and white” about this. That criticism doesn’t really apply. I have consistently said that justice exists on a gradient and that different crimes carry different levels of severity. Recognizing that all theft is wrong does not mean I believe all theft deserves identical punishment.
Please don’t argue against a position I haven’t taken.
The reason I used a “stealing because they’re starving” example is that you said there are NO exceptions to the idea that all theft is wrong. I strongly disagree, and further think such inflexible thinking is destructive. While you have said that the punishment should be different depending on the crime, something being a crime is in itself not a reason to believe it’s morally wrong; there are unjust laws everywhere.