• DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    Holy shit yes. Everybody thinks they’re smarter then everybody else. That’s a huge part of the problem. Nobody can just stay in their lane and admit anymore that a person with a PhD in a specific field might know a little more about that field than you. Even the educated now think they’re the smartest person on the planet.

    You 100% should not trust:

    • An epidemiologist’s opinion on inflation
    • A civil engineer’s opinion on viral spread
    • An economist’s opinion on traffic flow

    They’re just as guilty of this bullshit as everyone else. It’s everybody. The whole fucking planet at this point.

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      Also people think being smarter means knowing more, which is stupid. A guy who spent thousands of hours studying random topic is obviously going to know more about it, no matter how smart you are it just doesn’t replace time spent learning

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        That’s me, I’m a complete dumbass but I like history and recognize that to know the most about history I need to understand it in an interdisciplinary way. Which is how me an barely high-schools graduate has a working understanding of trade networks and macro-economics because how else am I to understand the Late Bronze Age collapse and it’s causes.

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      It wasn’t always this way, though — general education standards have been severely eroded. There was a point in time where you could trust that a civil engineer would have the general knowledge required to understand what they don’t know — thus leaving the decision to better educated minds.

      There are so many things wrong about how we teach each other in the U.S., and wrong with how we perceive being taught. So many people believe that unwarranted advice is the worst fucking crime imaginable, or that correcting someone’s spelling/grammar is a shitty thing to do. So many people are so innately positioned against learning that it’s no fucking wonder why your anesthesiologist has 0 fucking clue what the nation should do regarding immigration. Totally ignorant of the fact that they should absolutely be intelligent enough to come to the correct answers; at the very least they should be able to listen to those who come backed with facts and verify their veracity at a later point.

      I have no idea what I can do about it beyond being a grammar nazi. /endrant

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        That’s the thing though…in real life that anesthesiologist is going to be just as confident in their shitty opinion about immigration as a high-school dropout.

        I want that anesthesiologist and that high school dropout to admit that they don’t know as much about immigration as a sociologists, demographers, and immigration lawyers, and should trust those professional opinions rather then their own shitty opinions that are probably based on cable news shows.

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        Yes. That’s the point. A PhD in Geology does not in any way to qualify a person to declare the safety and efficacy of a vaccine.

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          Many prominent antivaxxers are MDs. A Nobel prize winner in immunology ranks among antivaxxers. There are experts on both sides.

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            Are these people actually actively working in the in the immunology and virology field, or are they paid schills who used to have real jobs but now work for a “think tank” for 10 times what they were making?

            I think you’ll find that these outliers are no longer actively working and have been corrupted by either money or cognitive decline.

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              What antivax “think tanks” are paying 10x a doctor’s salary? And why? There’s not exactly a lot of money in it.

              If money is your motivation, you work for Pharma, not against them.

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        There it is though.

        An actual “Economist” will have a Masters in Economics at the least or a PhD in Economics at the research level.

        So I would and should indeed trust an economist on matters of economics more than anyone should trust, well, you on matters of economics.

        You just proved the point of the post. Unless I missed that you are an economist and are poking fun at yourself…

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          Economy is not a science. Hand waving does not equal knowledge that can instruct good decisions on any level. I laughed my ass off in the 3 econ classes I took. Jumped through the hoops, but there’s not much there, there, as they say.

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        Economist here. This is pretty much the anti-intellectualism that everyone here is talking about and this is the opinion I’ve seen constantly on Lemmy.

        Most people have no idea what it is that I do and think it’s something to do with making billionaires more money. It isn’t and it never has been and it hasn’t been for anyone that I’ve kept in contact with from any of my classes.

        You don’t have to be involved in financial matters to be an economist either. We’re more involved in finding out root causes and impacts in certain fields.

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          To be fair while economists do a lot of good empirical testing across disciplines they are notorious for mis-interpreting other fields