• Taldan@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Fight fire with fire. Apparently it’s the only thing conservatives will pay attention to

      So many of them are convinced all gun violence is coming from the left, and at this point I’m ready to just let them have their delusions. What are they going to do about it? Implement gun control? Please do

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    4 months ago

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

    No really, if he was a nicer guy this probably wouldn’t have happened.

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    His last words

    He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied “Too many”

    He was corrected, the number is 5.

    He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700)

    He asked back: “Counting or not counting gang violence?” and got shot

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      “Gang violence” = racist dog whistle. The assassin couldn’t have picked a more perfect time to fire. 😂

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        I mean, most gang activity comes from young black men, but that does not mean it’s racist to talk about it. I think talking about whether to include or exclude “gang violence” from a conversation about mass shootings is appropriate and not offensive in the slightest.

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          a dog whistle has nothing to do with the facts but a shared agreement between people in the know as to its hidden meaning.

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            I understand that. I’m saying that there is no hidden meaning. Gang violence is understood on its face by everyone.

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              unless you use it as a overgeneral brush, and fill it with only minorities, and use it as a short hand for black people like it’s used in this context. are you a native english speaker?

              dog whistles specifically use words with a cover meaning and the group agrees to internally change its meaning.

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                He didn’t use “gang violence” as short hand for “black violence.” That wouldn’t make sense in the context of mass shootings. He said “Counting or not counting gang violence?” more as a shorthand for “Are we counting criminals killing each other?” Whether it’s hispanic, white, or black gangs isn’t very relevant.

                Gangs contribute to the majority of designated “mass shootings,” and are often excluded from conversations that want to focus on innocent victims of mass shooting as opposed to cases of criminals killing each other. After all, if all mass shootings were just gangsters shooting each other, people wouldn’t care nearly as much as they do now. They care about the mass shootings that don’t involve gangs.

                EDIT: Seems like many sources explicitly exclude gang violence in their stats. So my statement may be incorrect that gangs contribute to “designated” mass shootings as they are not designation such by many sources.