except they are both grown in the US using such intensive agricultural methods that the produce itself tastes different. US meat is banned in many countries because it’s considered not suitable for human consumption.
on top of that, US fast food franchise culture has destroyed whatever food culture there was.
food is something you eat multiple times a day, if a good American meal is something you have once in a while, it doesn’t count, if Americans eat fast food garbage every day, that’s American food.
there are many large systemic issues that make the American diet garbage. not just “America bad”. Blame corporations and capitalism and all the politicians that were bribed to allow this to happen.
This is the type of guy who grabs strawberries from the supermarket in February, doesn’t wonder how they got there, and compares them to farm fresh in season strawberry. The ability to have a planets worth of diverse food year round is lost on them because they had a shitty supermarket fruit out of season once
I am not judging food culture based on what the rich can afford, or for one special meal. but for what everyone eats
I’ve got bad news then: 90% of everyone’s food fucking sucks. Hope you enjoy the fine cuisine of flatbreads, rice, and an occasional dish that stretches an animal protein so thin you forget it’s there. If you’re lucky there might be some months old fermented junk to season it.
Or maybe you’re just racist and assume that every noble savage has access to fresh fish, fruit and veggies year-round?
I’ve got bad news then: 90% of everyone’s food fucking sucks.
I kinda wanna hug you because that sounds awful. At least in my bubble (Poland) it does not suck, although for example the quality of tomatoes is dropping like crazy for the past decade or so.
Unless of course you’re making a strawman about food in food insecure countries?
Food as hobby or art or cultural distinction is a rich country game. If you’re going to exclude special occasion (or “rich person”) food then you’re deluding yourself to think that food in the USA is worse than any but a handful of countries.
Not sure where you’re reading that into my comment, the USA is right up there with most developed countries. Using that as a proxy for “culinary development” it’s in the mix with most European countries (coincidentally slightly above Spain by 2/3 metrics).
So you either subjectively hate USA cuisine for some reason or are unfairly comparing the two (eg. Average meal in Madrid vs NYC Midwest McDonalds)
You still are clearly not accounting for how large in area the country is. There are farms that meet whatever standards you are deeming superior. Just because there’s a lot of fast food doesn’t mean there are no high class restaurants.
Europeans love to talk mad shit about how Americans know so little about other countries then drop comments like this, it’s frankly incredible
except they are both grown in the US using such intensive agricultural methods that the produce itself tastes different. US meat is banned in many countries because it’s considered not suitable for human consumption.
on top of that, US fast food franchise culture has destroyed whatever food culture there was.
food is something you eat multiple times a day, if a good American meal is something you have once in a while, it doesn’t count, if Americans eat fast food garbage every day, that’s American food.
there are many large systemic issues that make the American diet garbage. not just “America bad”. Blame corporations and capitalism and all the politicians that were bribed to allow this to happen.
Not if you go to farmer’s markets
And it’s frankly absurd to suggest that the existence of fast food means all American food is bad. That makes no fucking sense.
This is the type of guy who grabs strawberries from the supermarket in February, doesn’t wonder how they got there, and compares them to farm fresh in season strawberry. The ability to have a planets worth of diverse food year round is lost on them because they had a shitty supermarket fruit out of season once
yhea, had the same thing in Spain and the produce tasted like produce.
way to agree with me that US food sucks.
/r/IamveryCulinary
it is so amazing how you prove my point and pat your back.
there is good food only if you are rich, because nearly all American food is garbage.
yhea, good produce should be the bare fucking minimum, not the maximum.
I am not judging food culture based on what the rich can afford, or for one special meal. but for what everyone eats.
I’ve got bad news then: 90% of everyone’s food fucking sucks. Hope you enjoy the fine cuisine of flatbreads, rice, and an occasional dish that stretches an animal protein so thin you forget it’s there. If you’re lucky there might be some months old fermented junk to season it.
Or maybe you’re just racist and assume that every noble savage has access to fresh fish, fruit and veggies year-round?
I kinda wanna hug you because that sounds awful. At least in my bubble (Poland) it does not suck, although for example the quality of tomatoes is dropping like crazy for the past decade or so.
Unless of course you’re making a strawman about food in food insecure countries?
i lived in Spain for 18 years, 3 in Palestine, and currently in the US.
90% of the food over there is amazing, even if plant based, and the way you dismiss good regular food is sad and telling.
good food belongs to everyone, it shouldn’t be a luxury, it’s the bare minimum. if you disagree you’ve been brainwashed by American corporations.
Again, 90% of the world doesn’t live in the culinary cradle that is the Mediterranean Sea and Fertile Crescent while also having the funds to support a diverse and interesting diet. About 30% of the world is food insecure. Rice, wheat and maize alone are about 2/3 of human caloric intake. 15 crops account for 90% of all human energy intake.
Food as hobby or art or cultural distinction is a rich country game. If you’re going to exclude special occasion (or “rich person”) food then you’re deluding yourself to think that food in the USA is worse than any but a handful of countries.
interesting how you’re defense is implying that the richest nation in the world, the US, is a food insecure country.
Not sure where you’re reading that into my comment, the USA is right up there with most developed countries. Using that as a proxy for “culinary development” it’s in the mix with most European countries (coincidentally slightly above Spain by 2/3 metrics).
So you either subjectively hate USA cuisine for some reason or are unfairly comparing the two (eg. Average meal in Madrid vs
NYCMidwest McDonalds)I just miss when produce tasted like produce without needing to find a gentrified farmers market and pay exorbitant prices for a tomato.
good food is the bare minimum standard, not a luxury
You still are clearly not accounting for how large in area the country is. There are farms that meet whatever standards you are deeming superior. Just because there’s a lot of fast food doesn’t mean there are no high class restaurants.
Europeans love to talk mad shit about how Americans know so little about other countries then drop comments like this, it’s frankly incredible