Appreciate the info, thanks for taking the time to reply. I loved when Google was using XMPP for their chat just because that meant I could chat with people who insisted on using their Google accounts, without having to use one myself

I really want to love Matrix but man, it just feels janky. And this is from someone who likes IRC and XMPP. I can’t put my finger on why Matrix just doesn’t feel great, that’s the most frustrating part. Might be solvable with a decent client. I don’t like Element. Quaternion seems nice and simple but keeps crashing on me, and I don’t think it handles voice

I’d miss the history in my family server, but we’d get over it. If I can convince everyone else to move

I love IRC, just need some user friendly client recommendations if we want wider adoption by less tech savvy folks. Though I get the impression there are a good few IRC users who prefer how that filters out the “normies”

Sounds like everyone and their dog trying to sign up at once due to this Discord news is overwhelming them, give it a while and try again later. I’m waiting a bit before I try. im_doing_my_part.jpg

Yeah … A complete anything-goes free for all is always going to devolve into a nasty cesspool dominated by the worst actors who have driven everyone else away. I get it, there’s a lot of awful censorship out there, but on the flip side you need to have at least some rules to prevent the otherwise inevitable descent into the worst environment possible

I’m still trying to understand why XMPP isn’t more widely used. Probably the whole no single centralized service thing like most other federated protocols/services

My in laws have a post Christmas white elephant gift exchange today. Come on man, I just want it to be done