Saying it is not essential and saying it is generally useless are two very different things.

Most concurrency problems disappear at the pace of a debugger.

And I believe you are very wrong in that belief. However, a reliable statistic is not the first search result that I can find, so we’ll have to disregard the disagreement on that point. You lost me at your C# multithreading reasoning though. A debugger will always interfere with the processes you are looking at, hence making debugging of multithreading-related errors a game of whack-a-mole.

The only people who would take you being “more correct” from any of this are those who don’t know much about SW development. In internet lingo, what you wrote in your OC is called ragebait.

“it depends” is something I can agree on.

Okay I will concede your point. :) You do have bad hair g

In other words: “It is indeed a surprise if you are a moron” ;)

You clearly haven’t done much backend or middleware development.

That is the beauty of it: no one forces you to do so.

I think you are not looking at the full picture - there are developments (arguably everything back-end) where a debugging system is absolutely not essential and in many cases (multithreading) outright useless for some types of bugs.

I have never seen or known a serious professional

I think your message ended there, you accidentally copypasted some garbage after that statement.

The average user doesn’t install windows though. They buy the pc/laptop with Windows on it already, and use it till it’s in the ground.

Thanks for confirming my point. Windows isn’t easier to operate, it just comes preinstalled.

[…] cause if/when anything breaks, the fix isn’t approachable

Nor is it likely to be manageable for that user to fix issues on Windows

My line, thanks for saving me the work of typing it out this time.

And this elitist approach and tone is what turns a lot of folks away from even trying linux. Also, sure CLI might be great for a lot of devs, but regular users do need a GUI. And that is not fully there yet.

Regular users who “need a GUI” would be completely unable to install Windows at all, because the setup including activation (or workarounds) is way too complex for them. They might be able to install Linux from scratch though, because various distributions have good GUI installers and/or live images.

It appears you have not installed any Windows from scratch in a long time, or tried to harden it, or solve a driver problem there. That’s why you get confused. I was not saying Linux is always easy, I was saying it has overtaken Windows in almost every aspect, also because on Windows things have become more complex.

s/generous/desperate

At this point, the remaining voluntary (as in: not forced by work) windows users are one giant ass Stockholm syndrome victim group/

Almost everything in Linux is easier to set up than on Windows, and thanks to the command line and basic architecture not changing, 10-15 year old tips are still valid today more often than not. Unlike Windows.

And Windows users who would fail to set up Linux from scratch & read online references to fill their knowledge gaps have most definitely never set up a Windows machine themselves, and are instead using preinstalled OSes, and buy a new computer when they need to upgrade to a newer OS version, as well as take their computer to an IT service person when something breaks.

Haha! I had no idea who she was but I guessed right!

Well - to be fair, if you “cook your system”, you have a boiled system. It would be haphazardous to rely on the system booting for restoring a backup. It could be an option, I guess, as long as the system still boots.

Having had to fix a friend’s installation because timeshift filled up the system drive, I would say one of the biggest problems of mint is that it comes with timeshift enabled by default (and with shitty settings). I recommend keeping manual backups, and not trying to restore a system, as opposed to setting it up from scratch.

I use [not arch, but] debian, btw - haven’t had the system break on me in > 10 years. At worst, some driver gets messed up temporarily, but nothing that ever rendered my system unusable.