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I really hope the X11 session stays maintained.

Otherwise, KDE will finally have a reason to get get its MATE/Cinnamon equivalent

What should the fork be called? Surely someone can do better than “Plaxma DE”.

The first one I think is a fundamental limitation in that display preferences by default is per-user. Maybe this makes it work for you? https://feddit.online/post/1350756/comment/6636228

The 24h clock might be similar - check your system-wide locale.

Supposedly both the display manager and greeters have system-wide configuration for this purpose, however. And the issue with notifications and DE overlays are present post login, too.

Did you look this up?

What do you think is more likely - that KDE Neon does not have a testing version of Plasma Login Manager or that a sensationalistic news headline is not giving you a 100% accurate and complete understanding?

Things I’ve run into:

1. Out of the box, the lock screen comes on after screen unblanking - late enough that when things aren’t snappy you can briefly catch the desktop without reauthing.

2. Sometimes randomly after wake, keyboard input is not recognized in the password field at all. Except for Esc, which in this state appears to crash-restart it and makes it work again

3. With a multi-monitor setup, I have still not been able to properly force the primary monitor. Is an issue because things like notifications and the login input will only show up on a usually turned off projector. This one might be PEBCAK.

I have issues 1 and 3 with XFCE on lightdm, too, though.

Are you able to try it with other SATA drive models?

Are there any relevant BIOS Settings like “legacy USB” that could make a difference? Do you have the latest firmware for the motherboard?

It works. Go ahead, try it.

but is this currently the case

sorry, is what the case?

OK?

I think 2013 gear and low-end hardware can still be useful in 2026. And that it can be win-win to give old gear a new home.

But it wouldn’t be honest selling stuff that can’t physically handle what a reasonable user would expect from a PC to someone who is not capable to install an OS themselves and doesn’t understand what the limitations are.

Not too dissimilar to marketing CMR HDDs as “NAS drives”, which I hope we all agree is a scam.

And just so I don’t get misread on that part, “HD” = 720p.

In that case I’d give it away for free. Or sell it without an OS to someone who knows what they’re getting and leave them to figure it out.

Do you get a different result if you replace that :0 with your actual DISPLAY value?

Also make sure you run that in a context that does have access to the x server (i guess keep your display manager running as you do this).

Depending on your setup you should be running such commands as normal user instead of root.

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In the offchance that shenanigans are afoot, some malware will fudge mtimes (but not always ctimes) to prevent detection.

If you get files showing up as changed with -cmin but not modified with -mmin, that’s a bright red one.

Can it play Youtube in HD without lagging?

I guess that would be roughly my bar for what I’d feel OK with passing on to someone clueless.

Unless you took a backup I guess it’s not relevant anymore but if it happens again you can narrow down files last changed around some timestamp like so: find /var -mmin +4 -mmin -5

journalctl -xb-1 i believe gives it for last boot (if it even gets that far?)

Also dmesg.

And just in general, to see recently changed logfiles to look at after a reboot: sudo find /var/log -mmin -3 for files modified within last 3 minutes for example.

I’m not sure about your CPU but I’ve had times when similar issues play out differently on different distros (I guess due to differences in kernel buikdconf, modules, or drivers) so while it’s a long-shot you could give that a go.

Try also the LTS and Zen kernel flavors.

I’d try Arch, Debian, Fedora (or perhaps some other rpm-based alternative that doesnt deprecate so quickly)

Like someone else said, anyone who hasn’t had your exact issue will need logs and details to give more helpful advice.

@qyron Just in case you didn’t see my other reply which I think might be more relevant for you: https://feddit.online/post/1342935#comment_6604739

I have a hard time imagining a less rewarding user-facing software to be maintainer of. That’s probably why there isn’t one.

Thousands of hours and being blamed for dozens of people softbricking their PCs (which they now probably lack the USB route to recover from) - all because writing an ISO to USB and rebooting is too much friction?