These same people now just use AI do do their shit jobs.

You followed up with the same people from then, or is this more speculation?

I’m getting the sense that the people with the strongest opinions on ai in coding have the least amount of experience.

it’s wild that someone who doesn’t program would degrade others who can because the majority of developers who use ai-based tools.

If it degrades brains with use in writing Essays.

The study does not prove that claim. Better to link directly to the study https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872

The study does suggest only relying on ChatGPT could reduce engagement in the specific task of essay writing and harms recall. It does not prove ChatGPT is causing individuals to become less intelligent in the act of programming.

There are many studies that shows the potential positive outcomes when utilizing LLMs

[2512.13658] Embedding-Based Rankings of Educational Resources based on Learning Outcome Alignment: Benchmarking, Expert Validation, and Learner Performance https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.13658

[2509.15068] Learning in Context: Personalizing Educational Content with Large Language Models to Enhance Student Learning https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.15068

if that makes you feel better, but i wish you responded to the original claim with data vs ad hominem. but if you’re so good can i view your github to learn how you program?

a career that requires one to know exactly how their code works in case it breaks

Using AI doesn’t mean that you lose the ability to reason, debug, or test generated code. All code merge should be peer-reviewed and tested

We’re not discussing images, nor planes.

The claim was tech savvy people, the same people who are most opposed to AI.

There’s data that to suggest otherwise. people who are technically inclined engage with AI more and have a more positive reception compared to less experienced users.

Unless you have additional data to support that they are in-fact “dog-shit programmers”, this appears to be an emotional claim colored by your own personal bias. Though if you’re a “pure” programmer who is better than the dog-shit developers I would love to see some of your work or writings.

an elitist response.

here’s actual data https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/ai

half use AI tools daily

Professionals show a higher overall favorable sentiment (61%) than those learning to code (53%).

the same people who are most opposed to AI.

programmers almost exclusively use LLM