You’re on Lemmy mate, don’t bs me and tell me you think most people here don’t pirate. People here will downvote you for calling piracy theft but then upvote you for accusing llms of stealing.

And have you never downloaded a picture for a wallpaper, or to repost, send to friends, etc? Because that is equivalent to someone using a local model to do things. We are not talking large scale models, which seems to be what you keep shifting the conversation to. Anyway I’m tired if of this conversation, good bye.

No it doesn’t, you are arguing in ignoring and this is pointless. Have a good one.

1. What are their thoughts on piracy?
2. Have they ever saved an image they saw online to use in a different place (wallpaper, repost the meme, etc.)? What is so different from someone using it to train their own model which they use for themselves?

It doesn’t have to be built on theft. And what are your thoughts on piracy?

“Tons of people”

I was one of those people, on Lemmy, and I’m telling you first hand the vast majority of people did not give a shit, they just wanted a more powerful GPU

You don’t need all that to run local morals, don’t straw man me.

I mean, you certainly don’t need any more energy than you would for video games, for most of the stuff people are looking to use at home.

It is possible to generate it, but even if someone can’t, I don’t see the fuckai people yelling at game Devs for increasing requirements for so little gain, or at GPU Devs for not focusing enough on the draw power of GPUs. In fact, just 1 or 2 years ago I think, NVIDIA released a GPU generation that was only a little more powerful but had a lot more energy efficiency, and they got shat on by the internet because it wasn’t powerful enough - no cared about the lower power draw.

I mean you can also run a generative modal locally using green energy, but try going into fuckai and telling them that.

?? What do you mean how is it better to agree to the price before hand? That cannot be a serious question. If it’s too expensive at least you know ahead of time and can just not accept. You cannot be scammed by a driver going around in circles and increasing the price when you’ve already paid. In a taxi, you can. Uber/Bolt are objectively better in this regard, there is no point denying it and expecting to be taken seriously. Even my old parents who can barely use tech prefer to use Uber for that reason.

It’s an outdated system and one of the two main reason they are dying in so many places. The other is service quality - never heard of a cab you can call with an app where it shows you how far it is and how long you have. At least where I live, you have to call for one and just hope they show up.

Uber is still objectively better than cabs. You agree on the price before hand. With cabs sometimes there’s no meter, and even when there is one, good luck knowing if you’re being ripped off when you don’t know the streets.

It’s still miles better than Cabs, I can’t believe this even has to be argued! When was the last time anyone here defending cabs/shitting on Uber actually took a cab somewhere?

The few times I had to/decided to take a taxi, I got absolutely ripped off. And with an Uber, even if it’s expensive, you at least know before hand how much you’re paying. You can decline if you think it’s too much. Good luck trying that with taxis.