They don’t have to be devoid of love, you can put as much cheese as you want on.

Sure, but I can grab a can of beans and some bread on the way home then cook and eat them in all of 20 minutes. They’re not something you make because you enjoy cooking, they’re just cheap, quick, easy, and filling.

You could have just asked those questions 3 days ago when you got the source, why are you upset about being treated with the same respect you give?

OH what a surprise, it DOES turn out you were just here to JAQ off all along. You’re as easy to see through as folahts’ source is to find.

1. Yes? I’m confused, is there no subject you’re familiar enough with to recognise sources?

2. Yes it does, it doesn’t qualify as a reference, but luckily you’re looking at the Wikipedia page so you can just click it instead.

3. Yes, people make mistakes, but luckily sometimes other people like me are around to correct them.

4. No, I can justify my attributionby the fact that there’s only one (1) source that lists the dead by faction, the numbers just show how they misremembered the specifics of the source.

This isn’t some complex chain of advanced logic, I really don’t understand what you’re having trouble with.

Correct, as I said elsewhere they got the distribution wrong because they are working off memory, but it’s not difficult to link the numbers - they mistook the police and army as having the same number of deaths as civilian protestors rather than student protestors, but the total roughly matches and there’s only one source that makes that specific distinction between groups rather than a general guess at a total. I don’t understand why you’re so upset about being told the source after asking for the source.

B, obviously. It’s a beheading, not a benecking.

Well if you’re already reading a wiki article I’m not sure how you’d have trouble matching the source. As I said elsewhere they got the distribution wrong, but you’re making it sound like you’re just here to JAQ off.

You thought wrong. So back to the question, what cause would he become a martyr for, that the other dead couldn’t be martyrs for?

Probably the official CPC figure of 241 killed in total. Most of the serious estimates broadly agree - NSA said 180-500, and the Tiananmen Mothers organisation have identified 198 of the dead.

I think the numbers are a bit off - official Chinese figures were ~20 student protestors, ~20 police and army, and about 200 other protestors were killed.

A martyr for what? There were already plenty of dead to martyr, what difference would he make?

The problem with pissing all over Thatcher’s grave is that you eventually run out of piss.