I still don’t get it, What is the first image, that looks like a garlic press? And the relevance of the icecream, and the two scoop ice cream cone? Sorry, not trolling, I really don’t get it.

… What? I don’t get it

To mostly quote you:

Any amount of [wo]men doing that shit is unacceptable.

And that’s exactly my original point. Whether we’re talking about a large number of perpetrators or a small number, the people responsible for those crimes are the perpetrators, not their entire gender.

Are you a part of that plurality? If no, why are you mad?

I’m not claiming your “date rape is bad” stance is equivalent to “kill all men.” I’m pointing out that the defense you’re using is the same: Make a sweeping statement about men, then when someone objects, insinuate that their objection itself is suspicious rather than engaging with the criticism.

And the difference in prevalence doesn’t really resolve that issue. We can acknowledge that certain crimes disproportionately involve one sex while still asking whether collective blame is appropriate.

More importantly, if the goal is actually to reduce these crimes and help victims, I’d rather see the discussion focus on things that can accomplish that: effective laws, enforcement, appropriate punishment, prevention, victim support, and making sure victims of all forms of these crimes have access to those things.

That’s what I was getting at originally. I’m not defending date rape, and I don’t think anyone here is. I’m questioning why assigning blame to a gender seems to be the first avenue rather than addressing the mechanisms that allow the crime to happen in the first place.

And your response just proves my previous point, having a discussion with you is entirely pointless, you respond like you were trained to escalate things and then play the victim, Are you sure you’re not AI?

Anyway, feel free to reply, or don’t. I am not engaging with you anymore.

Edit, typo

Because when problems affecting women are discussed, most people act like it is the end of the world, like men need to risk and even lose their lives to protect them, but whenever issues that affect men are discussed, we are met with dismissals such as yours.

If people pointing out shitty things that a plurality of women do upsets you enough to try to debase those concerns, attempt to throw shade and even attempt to paint the other person as someone who roofies women, then there is no sense in having a discussion.

It is the same regurgitated arguments that people who claim “kill all men” is not hate speech, and ridiculing anyone who takes issue with said problematic statement.

Same as mothers committing infanticide, parental alienation, paternity fraud, rape and many other crimes.

Acting like an entire gender is guilty of the crimes of a few is inherently wrong and it is called collective responsibility, and it can also be played both ways, which is a complete waste of time.

It just leads to fighting, throwing blame around and it does not help bring solutions to the people actually suffering.

Way to bark at the wrong tree, I’m gay, I don’t look for women but sure, go off and claim I’m a conservative, lol. It is perfectly normal, natural and healthy to have, expect and respect boundaries, and there are also non negotiables.

So, if you feel asking men to disregard their non negotiables is perfectly valid, Would you ask the same from women? And if so, that’s just fucked up and unhealthy, I recommend you read and meditate on that.

If my non negotiables include not dating people with kids, you don’t know my reasons. Blindly asking me to disregard them and get to know them first, it is setting me up for failure. I will not expand on my reasons for children being a non-starter, because it is traumatic and I don’t owe you an explanation.

Because not wanting to be a parent automatically makes one a conservative, got it.

You do know that some people just don’t want kids at all, Right? And then there is the added danger, in case of a separation, even without marrying the woman, that the guy who according to the courts, acted as a father figure, gets hit with child support, and even alimony?

Lots of people act like it is conservative or incel behavior to try to protect oneself from systems designed to exploit and harm us.

Honestly, I respect you and your approach. Speed dating is an option, it is somewhat organic, or at least it mimics the thing, but as a word of advice, avoid the free ones. There are events on my city that charge around $20, with $10 out of the fee being consumable at the cafe where they host them, and the difference in quality of people is massive. And worst case scenario, at least I can count it as an afternoon out, with a good piece of pie.

I feel for you dude, and sadly, I have seen your fear materialize. Made a comment a few min ago on this thread, I’m gay, and even I got posted on one of those internet forums, to the point someone took and posted pictures of me at work, without my permission or awareness. Sometimes, some people are so toxic that they will lash out, to no fault of your own and attempt to hurt you.

Keep your standards high, build a circle of friends, and honestly man, my heart hurts for you, straight people dating is beyond fucked now, and has been for a while.

Honestly, that can happen to anybody. I am not even interested in women and I don’t date at work. Still got posted on AWDTS, with pictures of me taken without my knowledge, at work, and posted as “An aloof asshole, who I was told in confidence has a small, ugly dick anyway”.

Im gay and was happily married to a guy at the time, of course I can look aloof, I’m both gay and autistic, and that did a number on my self confidence, along with the replies that message got. My best friend’s sister found the post, found it funny and shared captures with me, without knowing how much that was going to fuck with my head.

Thank you for actually getting the point. It is just like that transphobic panic about bathrooms, people pretend to come from a place of love and care, a “Won’t someone think about the children” kind of stance, to justify battery, assault and harassment of anyone they suspect to be the target.

Honestly, mobs are beyond stupid and fail to even comprehend the fact that they can be wrong, but in their own echo chambers, where their own voices and support for their points gets amplified a lot, which leads to even further extremist thinking.

Yeah, people here are unhinged when it comes to Linux, AI, renting and a few other topics, and lose all reading comprehension.

And the dogpiling is extreme. Lots of people here gladly get baited by bad faith posts seeking engagement, which is extra pointless here, where Karma isn’t even a thing. But ultimately, not as shit as Reddit, so that’s at least something.

I post common sense stuff, and a bit of bait. And admit it just to troll.

Personally, I don’t see any valid point being made by the other person, other than agreeing with me about trans people needing protection and conversion therapy being fucked up.

Someone who’s opening statement is promoting violence and acting like assaulting people on the street is an appropriate response to those glasses doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt from me, so I just bait them a bit to kill some time.

I don’t mind the down votes, anyone rational enough would see how escalating to assault is straight up insane. I already knew I wasn’t going to convince the other person, so might as well have some fun, No?

Also, whatch this comment get down voted by the herd mentality and the people angry enough to keep coming back to continue down voting me, as well as going into my history just to downvote random older comments.

Sure, Why do you believe so, why should I care, and what is the goal of your comment? Are you also pro assaulting people or something?

Darling, you are responding to a mob, those things don’t think and have the reading comprehension of a starfish. And as usual, they don’t make a single, logical point, only stupid comments trying to chase for upvotes, without thinking of the valid uses that a device like yours can have.

Don’t let the stupid wave wash you away.

Wow, with that level of reading comprehension, you’re gonna get far in life, kid. Have I defended the glasses at any point? Hell no.

But as I said before, go touch grass, clean the foam out of your mouth and perhaps, get your blood pressure taken.

All I have been saying is that committing straight up assault on people for wearing those abomination glasses is stupid. But if you stan for violence so much, it won’t be a surprise when you stop posting because you landed your ass in jail.

Rage forever, sweet cheeks.

So funny, rage more. Now go have a meltdown or block me or something.

The genie is out of the bottle, and there is no way to put it back in. Instead of useless violence, things should be legislated and regulated.

Do I think those glasses are stupid, infringe the right to privacy of anyone around them and are being used for nefarious purposes? 100%.

Do I believe that committing indiscriminate violence on people one believes to be wearing meta glasses will make them disappear? Absolutely not.

But there is no way to have a logical conversation with someone who is foaming at the mouth. Especially when it involves topics such as AI and surveillance, that are so massively polarizing.

How great. It is the “You can always tell” bias all over again. With the variety of VR glasses that are out there, good luck memorizing all of them, and feeling like you’re playing Pokémon.

Just like with AI and trans people, a loud minority of irrational people turn to violence, instead of asking for proper legislation. (For the record, I think the legislation on Trans people should be to protect them, making gender affirming care become law, and ban things like hate speech and conversion therapy).

Because it is the same as renting or using AI. They are the triggers of Reddit Lemmy dogpiling.