Yes it does still collectivize production; it just does so in a decentralized method. You don’t need centralized authority to be a collectivist.

You have no understanding of what anarchism is.

Oh and of course, the lame fallacy that because it failed it means it can never be a thing. Tell me again how that worked out for the communist projects around the world? Oh, right, those imperialist nations totally don’t have clear class distinctions and any day now they will just willfully give up their newly gained authority over the masses… any day now…

Bruh, you’re taking a metaphor at face value instead of just understanding that it is, yes, a simple slogan meant to represent a much larger idea. A very common anarchist slogan, in fact.

It wasn’t meant to be a point. It isn’t an argument against any of what you stated because it isn’t itself an argument. It is just a slogan that represents a more in-depth point.

No, the proletariat cannot just use systems of oppression and hope it withers against its fundamental design. That’s just naive, wishful thinking that doesn’t understand how the system works to reinforce itself.

Tools also depend on their design to function in a specific way. You can try to saw away at a tree with a hammer all day but you’ll never cut it down. So the answer isn’t to use their tools to do something they weren’t designed to do but to build/use different tools altogether.

If you remove the system that allows them to gain authority over necessities and dictate how others access resources that should be communally available then you fundamentally remove their ability to be able to oppress you and your community.

by asking nicely,

I didn’t say you ask nicely. Nice try misrepresenting my argument because you can’t understand it.

What you are literally talking about is that we tried using the tools of the masters and instead of making a better society we just changed who was at the helm of the oppressive system. Thanks for proving my point.

Our ends require dismantling systems that allow for any kind of oppression. You don’t inspire confidence in admitting you just want to be the one doing the oppressing instead.

Bruh, it’s called a metaphor…

“The house” represents the position from which the owning class rule and the “tools” are the system that lets them rule from on high.

Yes, they are effective… at oppressing others, which is not anywhere close to reconcilable with our ends. You cannot build a world free of oppression by using the very systems that allow them to oppress us.

Lol, the irony that I was ML first when I finally broke free of my propagandized response to communism then continued reading a plethora of authors and it led me to being Anarchist.

Master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house.