When I have read anything Android phone related on Lemmy, I often see comments talking about how they switch to Linux phone or tell people to swap Android with Linux ASAP.
What’s the general experience like using Linux as your phone and is it any good? I remember watching video couple years about it and hearing about it and the lack of apps (at least that is made for mobile in mind) and wonder if that has changed or is it just good enough.
If you’re coming from a feature phone - it’s great!
If you’re coming from a modern smartphone, you probably won’t be happy with it as a daily driver.
I’m voting with my feet, but carrying two devices.
I wouldn’t consider any Linux phone ecosystem developed enough to consider a “daily driver” phone yet. If you need a phone to be functional at pretty much all times as a phone, but you don’t want to give into smartphones, I honestly would suggest a VOIP landline (that you potentially roll out and serve yourself, depending on your level of technical ability and available resources).
PostmarketOS makes no claim that it is ready to be a daily driver, Linux phones are pretty experimental right now. That’s why there is so much tension over the custom ROMs that manage to function on such locked-down hardware
They all have issues. The OS portion is just ramping up again brought on by the Google coup on Android.
Honestly, you’d be better off getting something that runs a better Android OS for now versus running a Linux derivative.
The main issues:
- Camera sensor support and control
- Modem (phone) stability
- Sensor support
- Biometric sensor support
- Specialized hardware support
The closest to a daily driver you can get to is Sailfish OS on a supported phone. There’s a lot if amazing work in the linux phone space as the bar for daily driver is fairly high.
Maemo on the N900 was close, but MeeGo on the N9 was there. The Ovi store even had the hot apps of the era.
Fuck Microsoft for killing that dream.
Few weeks ago I saw a really cool presentation about the history and current state of Linux phone. It is unfortunately in German, slides in English though: https://youtu.be/JeFoRE72Gu0
Alternative to Youtube: https://media.ccc.de/public/events/9c563ed6-2e77-5ff4-952d-c8272ec126df
Aside from the money and resources, why is making a Linux phone OS so difficult? Android is based on Linux after all.
drivers for GPUs and cellular modems
Android is a branch off linux…
The idea of a non-android ecosystem is to renove yourself from Google’s control.
He’s talking about non Android phones. We all know that Android is Linux based.
I would like to interject for a moment. This statement is technically true but disingenuous and facetious.
While it’s true that Linux is just the kernel, what most people refer to as Linux is actually the Operating System GNU/Linux, or, as RMS would now call it, GNU plus Linux, or sometimes, a less GNU depended, but mostly GNU/Linux compatible OS, or, as I have literally just now come to call it */Linux.
Moreover, a modern */Linux system is expected to be based on SystemD, unless explicitly avoiding it due to some technical constraint or some desired feature of another init system. One could come to call this SystemD/Linux.
And lastly, this kind of use case would be the perfect match for a Wayland shell, as opposed to an X11 shell. Which would be more efficient, and would give the shell more freedom in the management of windows.
As a result, when asking about a Linux phone, we could expect one is talking about a phone running a SystemD+Wayland/Linux OS, or at least a mobile-focused */Linux OS.
The Android kernel is a, largely downstream, fork of the Linux kernel, but the Android OS is in almost no way compatible with any */Linux OS, and it’s instead its own completely different OS.
Okay…but still based off Linux right? :-)
Then, the year of the freebsd desktop came many years ago when apple released MacOS







