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    They probably reached their goal. It was never about efficiency. It was about getting rid of pesky regulatory bodies which stood in the way of making more money. Especially those who hindered Musk’s companies.

    The USA is currently experiencing the end phase of capitalism: massive corruption turning into open corruption with an economic oligarch class fusing with the government, massive income gaps and problems for regular citizens, class and culture wars plus reappearance of fascism to keep the population busy with culture wars among themselves instead of uniting against the exploiters, and so on. But it just started in USA. It’s already swapping over to other western democratic countries as well.

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    So is it gonna go back to being the USDS and doing the good work that organisation did? Or is it just dead?

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    It ain’t over until members of DOGE and Musk have been put to sleep. They will just do this again, when the Regime needs vandals to do the dirty deeds.

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    Bunch of fucking murderous pieces of shit. They all deserve to be publicly beaten within an inch of their lives. Then they deserve to be denied medical assistance. I hope they all drown in baby shit.

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    Well at the least the US deficit is now less than it used to be right? … RIGHT??

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      “Did you reduce the federal deficit?” the attorney asked.

      “No, we didn’t,” Nathan Cavanaugh responded

      “I think a person can have enough judgment from reading books and being well-informed outside of traditional experience to make judgment calls about obvious things like a grant that literally lists DEI in its description,” Nathan testified.

      “What books?” the attorney asked

      "There were no books,” Cavanaugh said.

      Source

      Source - where I actually learned about it

      If it weren’t so depressing this would be some of the funniest shit I have ever seen. As it is, it’s still pretty funny, seeing these clowns have to (fail to) justify their choices to real, serious people.

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    Of all the fuckery they did (and it was a fuckton), I’m most distraught about them murdering USAID. So much suffering and death for the sake of being cruel.

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      This is precisely why Musk needs to prosecuted, and imprisoned for life, as well as his psychopathic minions. They are mass murderers.

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      It didn’t even make sense as a political move. I’d wager most MAGA folks had never heard of USAID or knew what they did, and it was at least helping the US’ reputation on the world stage.

      Obviously the real value is the good it was doing all over the world, but for the Trump admin that couldn’t care less about that, it still made no sense to axe it.

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        Not knowing what a program did and cutting it anyways was DOGE’s MO. They don’t care. And the MAGA people won’t ever bother learning about how this affects everybody including themselves.

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    At this point, if you drive a Tesla, I have a real hard time not thinking you like Nazis who hate freedom and minorities. 🤷‍♂️

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      I feel like most of the commenters in this thread would have an aneurysm if they took a drive on Norwegian roads.

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      My car is 8 years old and paid off. I’m sorry we didn’t have many options 8 years ago and we didn’t know who he was. I’m glad I have an EV now because gas is crazy and my electricity is $0.13/kWh vs $5.50 for gas, even though I barely drive it since I live in a city now and take public transit, but my wife uses it to drive to work. I am not going to buy another tesla if we ever need another car.

      But there’s no point in selling a car that we use at a loss right now. I don’t give him any money besides long distance trips with the superchargers, but every new EV uses the Tesla super chargers now.

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          Um where have you been? With chip shortage and supply chain issues the dealers were phoning people up and offering more than they paid to get cars back.

          A friend drove a van for 2 years and dealer bought it back over new price. . Used cars have been crazy prices too. A car you’d have paid $1800 for 6 years ago is now $6000 even with six years more

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      I had a coworker that regularly pressures other people to buy Tesla. He succeeded in convincing two of his friends as well as his own daughter.

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      Ugh yeah, I’m an Uber driver and it being a cheap EV that also qualifies for comfort rides would really make my life better but I just can’t support the Nazi. I’m kinda jazzed about the slate truck, but I’m sure it’s bad for leftists someway somehow. Living under the thumb of capitalism is tough

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        slate truck, but I’m sure it’s bad for leftists someway somehow

        I’m not familiar with it. But what’s its front-on visibility like? How many children can sit in a line in front of it before you can see them? How tall would someone have to be before a crash results in someone being knocked over the car, rather than being run over? (The former being generally much safer.) The problem with many of these types of vehicles that Americans call “trucks” is that their insanely tall bonnets make them insanely dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists—especially children.

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          It seems like it’s slightly lower profile than a Ford Maverick and doesn’t seem to employee the sloped hood shape that’s better when it’s between the 30in-40in range. Which it doesn’t appear to be in. I’m kind of leaning towards the ionique? Ionic? The Hyundai. The other issue I’m working with is that I have a tall frame and sitting in a sedan all day is pretty uncomfortable which makes driving longer hours intolerable. Knock on wood I haven’t hit any pedestrians but I do do a lot of driving and it’s entirely possible that’s because of driving a sedan where I can see. It is a worthwhile consideration. But it would be nice. So many considerations

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          You should do just the most basic research to understand how prejudgemental you are being. 👍

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            I’m not being prejudgmental, I’m asking a question, and explaining the reason the question is relevant.

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        Does a Hyundai qualify? I just got one of the Ioniq cars for a great deal and in my opinion, beats Tesla in every category.

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        Hey, wanna say 🤝 for being principled even when money is on the line, unlike some other responses in this thread.

        And I agree that the Slate looks cool af. 👍

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        This looks great, but it seems it’s part owned by bezos? No thanks.

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      At least if someone drives a brand-new Tesla. I can kinda sympathise a little bit with people who bought theirs a couple of years ago before Elmo’s antics became really obvious and are now struggling to get rid of it.

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        I give a pass to most Tesla’s because I don’t know much about cars. The cyber dumpster drivers knew full well who he was before buying their Swasticars, and they get to see my social finger at every opportunity.

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          Also, the cybertruck is objectively garbage on every front.

          It failed at its original design, it failed at its current design, it failed at range, it failed at tow capacity, and more. It is objectively the worst vehicle in the sector it’s trying to claim it is in.

          Subjectively…fuck all of it.

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          I stopped giving a pass to most Tesla driver a couple of months ago when I realized they’ve all had plenty of time to sell their cars

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            Selling a Tesla to another owner solves nothing, now you have a new owner you are hounding to sell it

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      I bought mine before he went crazy. He has tweets after I purchased bragging about scoring high on lgbtq equality. Further, mine has lifetime free supercharging. The longer I have it the more I cost tesla money.

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        You bought yours before 2018? Because that’s the cut-off for when supporting anything Musk does was acceptable. Butting his way into an emergency situation offering “help” that lacked any awareness of what was actually needed, and getting so butthurt when told he wasn’t helping that he accused the heroes actually saving children’s lives of being paedophiles, and hiring PIs to try and track down dirt on them to that effect, is inexcusable. And then lying to a court to pretend that calling someone a paedophile is not a serious insult in South Africa, in order to win the defamation suit.

        It was a prominent enough news event that unlike his many flaws from before then, Tesla owners cannot reasonably claim ignorance after 2018.

        But anyone who genuinely did buy their Tesla before then is fine in my books. As winkerjadams says, selling your car now won’t hurt them. Not enough to matter, anyway. (In theory, more people selling might reduce the resale value, which will reduce incentive for people to buy new, reducing Tesla’s value. But I suspect that’s a miniscule effect in the EV market.)

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        He was always a shitty person. Even in his adolescence.

        He made fun of his classmate because his classmates father committed suicide. That classmate responded by shoving him down the stairs. Which honestly should have happened more.

        He was always rotten to the core.

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        He has always had some pretty shitty opinions about things and a shitty way of doing business. Tesla was basically stolen by Musk from the guys who founded it, then he tried to rewrite Tesla history and label himself as the soul founder, at which point the actual founders had to sue him to maintain their founder status, and that was all in 2009, so unless you tell me that you bought the Roadster in 2008, I have a really hard time believing you. Or you’re one of those people that don’t care about things until it’s literally shoved in your face. But I digress. Sure you didn’t know.

        But what’s stopping you from selling the one you have now, since you do know, now?

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          Tesla Roadster was just a Lotus with a retrofit electric motor. Without Elons cash they wouldn’t have become what they are today. In effect he helped found a viable production car instead of staying as an aftermarket retro fit of another manufacturers car.

          He’s an absolute asshole douche, but I’m glad he brought Tesla to where it is, it forced all other ICE manufacturers to take EVs seriously.

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          Because, as mentioned in my initial comment, it costs tesla money the longer I have it. If I sell it, the free supercharging won’t go with it. While it’s mine I can choose where to get repairs and avoid tesla service centers. That’s not a guarantee if I sell it.

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    He accomplished his goal of trashing all the agencies that were in the middle of investigating his businesses.

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      Also defunding arts, sciences, academia, and anything that might improve people’s lives, and making minorities suffer more.

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        There’s is book from 2010 about this topic, the author and title escape me at the moment, but it explains that this is the path the USA is on on purpose to create good little obedient workers who have no critical thinking skills from arts and literature education.

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        In addition, the exfiltration of data to foreign/other bad actors as well as building dossiers on all Americans. The pile of shit perpetrated is quite large.

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    There is no justice until this ratfucker is hauled off, imprisoned, and everything he’s done needs to be fixed.

    He does not deserve his freedom and humanity can’t withstand it.