I don’t see EVs ever becoming good for everywhere. Here it usually gets as low as -20 to -45 degrees in Celcius during winter so you’d need a heated garage at your home and another at your workplace to have an EV work well, or hell, even start. With an older car, you can just take the battery indoors for the night and pop it back in the morning and be on your way. And having a heated garage (and the cost of building EV’s battery, building the car, shipping it) is already worse for the environment, so no, it will never work here.
Just developt the gas (gas as in gas, not benzin or diesel) and use them here, EV’s where it’s warmer all year around.
And no, fuck them Chinese spyware cars. And other spyware cars. Put the cameras up your ass.
They are huge in the warm, wealthy areas in Norway. In the rest of Norway they hardly exist. I got a really expencive EV a few months ago, and surprise, surprise, importants features stop working completely when it gets below +5 degrees. Not looking forward to the winter.
97,7% of all personal vehicles sold in Norway in May were EV’s.
Unless you claim only 2,3% of our population live north of Trondheim, you’re just full of shit.
And if your car stops working below 5 degrees, you have a shitty car. Both our EV’s worked fine in -30 just two years ago.
I had to charge more often, that was it
It gets to -35C where I live during winter. I have an unheated garage and park outside while at work, I have an EV and definitely see a drop in range but it isn’t large. I can still drive around 300 km on a fully charged battery while using heat.
I can get more range by being more sparing with my heat, if I just use my heated seats and steering wheel I can keep the heat on less and get about 50 extra kms. My trips are pretty short so a fully changed battery lasts me 3 weeks during summer and 2.5 weeks during during winter.
Didn’t they just charge a car in 12 minutes frozen to -20C? Soon this will be a non-issue. The real road block will be stopping these companies from turning electric cars into data-mining, subscription model machines. Laws will need to be passed posthaste.
I mean battery tech is always improving, I don’t see -45C as big of a roadblock as you make it out to be. There are already battery chemistries that work well at those temps. They just have to be scaled up and made cost effective.
To me this feels like scoffing at the first car because a horse had a higher top speed.
I don’t see EVs ever becoming good for everywhere. Here it usually gets as low as -20 to -45 degrees in Celcius during winter so you’d need a heated garage at your home and another at your workplace to have an EV work well, or hell, even start. With an older car, you can just take the battery indoors for the night and pop it back in the morning and be on your way. And having a heated garage (and the cost of building EV’s battery, building the car, shipping it) is already worse for the environment, so no, it will never work here.
Just developt the gas (gas as in gas, not benzin or diesel) and use them here, EV’s where it’s warmer all year around.
And no, fuck them Chinese spyware cars. And other spyware cars. Put the cameras up your ass.
I’m not sure really. EVs are huge in Scandinavia. Per capita, Norway even has he largest fleet of EVs in the world.
My EV gas a built-in heat pump to warm up during winter, so there’s definitely solutions for colder regions.
They are huge in the warm, wealthy areas in Norway. In the rest of Norway they hardly exist. I got a really expencive EV a few months ago, and surprise, surprise, importants features stop working completely when it gets below +5 degrees. Not looking forward to the winter.
This is just a straight up lie.
97,7% of all personal vehicles sold in Norway in May were EV’s.
Unless you claim only 2,3% of our population live north of Trondheim, you’re just full of shit.
And if your car stops working below 5 degrees, you have a shitty car. Both our EV’s worked fine in -30 just two years ago.
I had to charge more often, that was it
You call me a liar and then immediately claims that literally all vehicles that exists in Norway were bought this May… Wow…
It gets to -35C where I live during winter. I have an unheated garage and park outside while at work, I have an EV and definitely see a drop in range but it isn’t large. I can still drive around 300 km on a fully charged battery while using heat.
I can get more range by being more sparing with my heat, if I just use my heated seats and steering wheel I can keep the heat on less and get about 50 extra kms. My trips are pretty short so a fully changed battery lasts me 3 weeks during summer and 2.5 weeks during during winter.
Didn’t they just charge a car in 12 minutes frozen to -20C? Soon this will be a non-issue. The real road block will be stopping these companies from turning electric cars into data-mining, subscription model machines. Laws will need to be passed posthaste.
which involves peddling AI, the sooner that collapses, the less we will hqave to contend with.
The cold temperature issue is solved by Natrium-batteries. Give it a few more years, and we will see more cars having those kinda batteries.
I mean battery tech is always improving, I don’t see -45C as big of a roadblock as you make it out to be. There are already battery chemistries that work well at those temps. They just have to be scaled up and made cost effective.
To me this feels like scoffing at the first car because a horse had a higher top speed.