“More efficient and less annoying than […] a PC.”
talks about modern day smartphone
huh?
I’d like to know how a completely underpowered totaly locked down piece of crap I keep struggling with daily is “infinitely more efficient and less anoying” than my well oiled machine running mostly FOSS.
Google is talking about removing the ability to install software while Apple is busy reinventing Windows Aero 20 years later. Meanwhile both are spying on you and no you can’t have any alternative due to how locked down those things are.
Can’t access some parts of the storage of my device due to “security concerns”. Can’t disable some aggressive “optimisations” that keeps killing my apps to prevent OOM, can’t use anything less bloated than the stock OS that uses roughly all the available RAM, AI everywhere…
Add on top of that those fucking “all touch and swipe based” UI that are just a pain, virtual keyboard included. My fat fingers on a tiny over-sensitive touchscreen means a fuck ton of misclics. Bring me back Blackberry or Psion like physical keyboards.
Do you know which computing device I own that isn’t such a pain? My desktop computer, my ol’ reliable!
Bring me a smartphone that doesn’t attempt to dictate how I must use it, that I actually own and with buttons and I might end up liking it. Until then enjoy that corporatist hellscape without me.
My smartphone is brand new, thank you very much, doesn’t change the fact that android need 6GB of memory to just exist idly…
Yes I am adequating my device with the dislike of a company when said company provide the OS (an important part of the device) an no mean to change it, and said OS is a spyware.
No my PC isn’t a tool to spy on me, my machine, my OS, my rules. I run a Linux system : no Google, Apple or Microslop here.
Lmao. Buddy if you want to use a phone as a computer, no worries. But fuck all the way off with the idea that using a PC is difficult or less efficient than a phone. Get a grip on reality.
“Babysitting a PC” you sound like you’re tech illiterate.
I could do a lot of things I do on the daily on my phone. But it would be more finicky and annoying. I have automated pretty much all regular maintenance my PC needs long ago. I just don’t see what I’d get, except for more janck.
So how fast do you type on your phone? Because I can barely get 50 words per minute and even then my accuracy suffers… So that’s a third of the speed of a proper keyboard and way more typos.
Why would I pay for a tablet and a keyboard to get a second super limited device as opposed to having a proper computer that can do anything I want it to?
Try programming on a tablet, or playing any graphics heavy games, or really anything more than simple text editing or media consumption. It’s a shit experience.
Of course if your idea of PC ownership includes an anti-virus subscription, you should indeed limit yourself to devices that limit what you can do with them, as I have suspicions about your tech literacy.
I program on pc. Programming on phone is pretty terrible, I have spent a decent amount of time doing this and you kinda need to accept that a lot of regular dev programs on termux don’t work. And you also have to accept using the terminal for everything
Being able to program with a mouse is pretty convinient for things like debugging
Fair. But you also conceded that you can do it on a phone, just not as efficiently.
My comment specified “outside work.”
I think a lot of people downvoting and defending their PCs so . . . vociferously are just old and set in their ways. Not everyone is a programmer/coder.
First of all, I couldn’t find where you specified “outside work”, so maybe you imagined it and accidentally believed you did.
Second of all, phones can be efficient at some tasks, but PCs can be for others. Phones aren’t always the most efficient thing ever at every task. Programming for example is much more streamlined on desktop, since you can simply install an IDE, program what you need and test it pretty easily unless you’re really shit at coding. On mobile, it’s different, on iOS you’d be hard pressed to find an IDE at all that isn’t some completely unheard of one with at most 3 stars if people actually used it, or 5 stars from the creator of it. On android it’s a little better, although I genuinely haven’t heard of official or even recommended options for IDEs either.
Thirdly, people aren’t downvoting out of elitism, it’s out of logic, PCs are amazing at most things, maybe apart from endless short form video scrolling. Phones are just portable PCs built to be more energy efficient, do mostly the same tasks, but also lack most of the input methods apart from a digitiser, and a miniaturised display. None are bad, and frankly I’m typing this on an iPad right now, but that’s because I’m away from my desk and just wanna do some simple browsing. On my laptops I can genuinely do what I’d like that isn’t just browsing, I can have a game open that’s not compatible with iPadOS or android, and even within browsing, I can have 30 or more YouTube or other tabs open without the browser grinding to a halt, which I can’t say the same for safari on the iPad or chromium on my android phones.
People aren’t “just old and set in their ways” because they like the tactility, openness and forms of ease of use PCs bring. Sure, your workflow may have never touched PCs at all currently, but other people have different workflows. Other people aren’t stupid for not being you.
You know, I’m not sure if you’ve ever actually used a desktop computer before, but they have this incredible new feature that lets you have multiple windows open at the same time. You do you, though, my incredibly fucking stupid booboo.
You know, I’m not sure if you’ve ever actually used a mobile device before, but they have this incredible new feature that lets you have multiple windows open at the same time. You do you, though, my incredibly fucking stupid old booboo.
Yeah, I’ve used it. Even with the tiniest font size, you can barely see enough to get anything done with it. But going off of your posts, you don’t have any actual work to do so it makes sense that you’d think the two are comparable.
Then get a larger phone or a tablet and a keyboard. You have options that are infinitely more efficient and less annoying than babysitting a PC.
At some point you must face the question: Are you using a PC because it’s how you’ve always done it?
EDIT: I happened to open the Voyager app and saw your comment. I responded within a minute. My keyboard works just fine. I’m sorry yours doesn’t.
You don’t deserve the massive downvotes, just because you have different person experience than others. Lemmy hivemind is just nasty.
Appreciate it.
I figure it’s the Reddit crowd that brought their habits over.
That being said, I’m partly to blame because I mirror their behavior back at them when they get really nasty.
“More efficient and less annoying than […] a PC.” talks about modern day smartphone
huh?
I’d like to know how a completely underpowered totaly locked down piece of crap I keep struggling with daily is “infinitely more efficient and less anoying” than my well oiled machine running mostly FOSS.
Google is talking about removing the ability to install software while Apple is busy reinventing Windows Aero 20 years later. Meanwhile both are spying on you and no you can’t have any alternative due to how locked down those things are.
Can’t access some parts of the storage of my device due to “security concerns”. Can’t disable some aggressive “optimisations” that keeps killing my apps to prevent OOM, can’t use anything less bloated than the stock OS that uses roughly all the available RAM, AI everywhere…
Add on top of that those fucking “all touch and swipe based” UI that are just a pain, virtual keyboard included. My fat fingers on a tiny over-sensitive touchscreen means a fuck ton of misclics. Bring me back Blackberry or Psion like physical keyboards.
Do you know which computing device I own that isn’t such a pain? My desktop computer, my ol’ reliable!
Bring me a smartphone that doesn’t attempt to dictate how I must use it, that I actually own and with buttons and I might end up liking it. Until then enjoy that corporatist hellscape without me.
Hey, I’m sorry you’re using a Jitterbug. Perhaps it’s time for a modern smartphone with a touch screen.
Snark aside, you most likely fall into some category of Luddite, hanging on to your PC and equating device to your personal dislike of (x) company.
You sweet boy, thinking your PC isn’t also a tool for spying on you. They’re all guilty, just in varying degrees.
I’m sorry I interrupted you. You may continue screeching.
Ok, you’re either stupid or a troll.
In case you are just stupid :
My smartphone is brand new, thank you very much, doesn’t change the fact that android need 6GB of memory to just exist idly…
Yes I am adequating my device with the dislike of a company when said company provide the OS (an important part of the device) an no mean to change it, and said OS is a spyware.
No my PC isn’t a tool to spy on me, my machine, my OS, my rules. I run a Linux system : no Google, Apple or Microslop here.
You may also continue acting dumb.
Lmao. Buddy if you want to use a phone as a computer, no worries. But fuck all the way off with the idea that using a PC is difficult or less efficient than a phone. Get a grip on reality.
“Babysitting a PC” you sound like you’re tech illiterate.
Buddy, you sound so defensive typing this out on your phone while your PC sits all the way across the room.
I could do a lot of things I do on the daily on my phone. But it would be more finicky and annoying. I have automated pretty much all regular maintenance my PC needs long ago. I just don’t see what I’d get, except for more janck.
You do you, mate.
So how fast do you type on your phone? Because I can barely get 50 words per minute and even then my accuracy suffers… So that’s a third of the speed of a proper keyboard and way more typos.
Why would I pay for a tablet and a keyboard to get a second super limited device as opposed to having a proper computer that can do anything I want it to?
Pretty damned fast, actually.
The rest of your excuses are pretty sad but I get it. Gotta protect what you support even if it’s based on outdated information.
To respond in kind, I offer this: You could always cut off the anti-virus subscription and sell your home PC to get that cheap tablet and keyboard.
Nice troll m8
Try programming on a tablet, or playing any graphics heavy games, or really anything more than simple text editing or media consumption. It’s a shit experience.
Of course if your idea of PC ownership includes an anti-virus subscription, you should indeed limit yourself to devices that limit what you can do with them, as I have suspicions about your tech literacy.
Something I’ve learned is that PC people are insane about accepting that there are better options out there.
Thanks for the lesson.
More limited options that don’t give you control over what you do, yes.
I program on pc. Programming on phone is pretty terrible, I have spent a decent amount of time doing this and you kinda need to accept that a lot of regular dev programs on termux don’t work. And you also have to accept using the terminal for everything
Being able to program with a mouse is pretty convinient for things like debugging
Fair. But you also conceded that you can do it on a phone, just not as efficiently.
My comment specified “outside work.”
I think a lot of people downvoting and defending their PCs so . . . vociferously are just old and set in their ways. Not everyone is a programmer/coder.
First of all, I couldn’t find where you specified “outside work”, so maybe you imagined it and accidentally believed you did.
Second of all, phones can be efficient at some tasks, but PCs can be for others. Phones aren’t always the most efficient thing ever at every task. Programming for example is much more streamlined on desktop, since you can simply install an IDE, program what you need and test it pretty easily unless you’re really shit at coding. On mobile, it’s different, on iOS you’d be hard pressed to find an IDE at all that isn’t some completely unheard of one with at most 3 stars if people actually used it, or 5 stars from the creator of it. On android it’s a little better, although I genuinely haven’t heard of official or even recommended options for IDEs either.
Thirdly, people aren’t downvoting out of elitism, it’s out of logic, PCs are amazing at most things, maybe apart from endless short form video scrolling. Phones are just portable PCs built to be more energy efficient, do mostly the same tasks, but also lack most of the input methods apart from a digitiser, and a miniaturised display. None are bad, and frankly I’m typing this on an iPad right now, but that’s because I’m away from my desk and just wanna do some simple browsing. On my laptops I can genuinely do what I’d like that isn’t just browsing, I can have a game open that’s not compatible with iPadOS or android, and even within browsing, I can have 30 or more YouTube or other tabs open without the browser grinding to a halt, which I can’t say the same for safari on the iPad or chromium on my android phones.
People aren’t “just old and set in their ways” because they like the tactility, openness and forms of ease of use PCs bring. Sure, your workflow may have never touched PCs at all currently, but other people have different workflows. Other people aren’t stupid for not being you.
Sorry, I skipped all that.
OP: pulls out phone “Ha HA LET ME SHOW YOU MY 30% completed POKéDEX”
Bill: “I can store actual Pokémon here…”
I would, but I can’t fit 3 32 inch screens in my pocket ever since I blew out the crotch on my JNCOs.
Perhaps get some prescription glasses for your eyes so you can see screens better, mate.
I looked it up and you can save your JNCOs with Ceftriaxone or Levofloxacin. Check with your doctor, mon frère.
You know, I’m not sure if you’ve ever actually used a desktop computer before, but they have this incredible new feature that lets you have multiple windows open at the same time. You do you, though, my incredibly fucking stupid booboo.
You know, I’m not sure if you’ve ever actually used a mobile device before, but they have this incredible new feature that lets you have multiple windows open at the same time. You do you, though, my incredibly fucking stupid old booboo.
Yeah, I’ve used it. Even with the tiniest font size, you can barely see enough to get anything done with it. But going off of your posts, you don’t have any actual work to do so it makes sense that you’d think the two are comparable.
Love that you responded to your own diatribe.
Love that you haven’t died choking on your own tongue. It must be a major achievement for someone with an intellectual disability as severe as yours.
Lmao. You’ve lost it, Anakin. I have the high ground.