They say because of AI people stopped visiting their page and now they can’t sell them other services. I’ve been using tailwind for some time and I have no idea what other services they offer besides some component library. There are so many free alternatives that I never even considered checking it out. I think their business model is that that great to begin with and AI doesn’t have much to do with it.
google ai studio is now sponsoring them so the slop can continue
https://xcancel.com/OfficialLoganK/status/2009339263251566902Tailwind : I can’t believe it’s not CSS ! Now with hallucinations !
Sounds like Tailwind is facing some headwinds.
I’ll see myself out.
thank goodness tailwind is pretty useless with new css tech. I’ll keep on stickin with css :) It just wasn’t a good idea, and certainly not valuable imo
what new css tech are you referring to?
css layers mostly now, and then variables, and calc. Soon we’re getting custom functions too!
I thought CSS was for things like layout and fonts. How would genuine programming features factor in? Is this about replacing JavaScript?
CSS is for StyleSheets (so yes layout and font but also more). Adding these features allows for more reactive/responsive styles where the style may be behaviorally defined instead of hardcoding styles.
Basically the only thing I can think of to do with it is some kind of reactive layout that crunches some data and responds to it. IDK, I’m not a web dev and try to avoid CSS when I can.
What a shit show of a thread lol.
That sounds too loud, what’s the actual meaning behind what they’re saying? To me, that looks like maybe they hired too many people assuming their business would only grow. That’s the delusion some Silicon Valley folks have, with the sort of VC culture. Perhaps they shouldn’t grow in employees (why are there employees in the first place?) and try to be sustainable instead. The whole project looks so flashy, but does it even need to grow?
And, forgot to add: what is 75% of employees? Were they tens? Were they a hundred? (Sounds absurd to me, but who knows.)
Edit: according to this HN comment, they fired 3 developers out of 4.
On a personal note, I’m not a fan. I used it in a couple of projects, and wasn’t sold on the idea of never ever learning CSS and make your classes not semantic at all. However, I think there might be cases where this approach makes sense. I just haven’t found it so far.
It makes if you use any sort of front-end library like React, Vue, Svelte, etc. The components are your semantic boundaries and the tailwind classes don’t need to be descriptive beyond what they actually do.
I’d love to learn more, never really worked with them. Is Tailwind much of improvement with these frameworks?
What’s Tailwind?
A CSS framework that moves writing CSS into the html to make it stupidly long with annoyingly confusing class names.
I might be biased though. I hate it.
Tailwind is what you get when you ask “What if we UNinvented CSS 🤔”
I agree. I looked at tailwind and couldn’t believe it was so popular. It defeats the entire purpose of CSS, and returns web dev back to the early 90s. Just stupid.
What’s the entire purpose of CSS according to you?
The chief valid complaint against Tailwind is that it effectively removes the cascading part of CSS in favor of what amounts to inline styles.
✨ Making the page fancy ✨
It’s effectively an alternative to plain CSS. Works well with component-based systems like React and Svelte.
I used it for a few years and thought it was pretty good. I still use it on some of my projects.
If I recall correctly, it is a CSS framework.
300 bucks for one “license”? I’m starting to understand the “get fucked” comment guy.
It’s not particularly bad value for what they’re offering, which seems to be a component library and set of templates.
For a comparison, the company I work for are paying over a £1000 / year for MUI-X, which is a set of paid React components. It’s cheaper and more efficient than paying someone at our company to maintain our own component library.
Even a single engineer spending 10% of their time (as I used to) maintaining this stuff would cost the company over £5000 / year in manpower.
That’s for lifetime. Or you could pay five bucks a month for it. It’s been quite impressive, as a person who just uses the service. Tried it on the free tier liked it enough to start ponying up.
Lifetime of the product, not the user. It’s a scam.
All subscriptions are for the lifetime of the product, aren’t they? It’s like Plex Pass; pay monthly/yearly or buy the lifetime and hope they don’t bankrupt out. But if you like a product like that, there’s only a few options, and it seems like they’re trying to stay afloat and still make a relatively open product.
And there’s always the free tier for personal use, which seems to have been glossed over.(was thinking of a different product with tail in its nameIf they kill that product then release a newer version of the exact same thing and pretend it’s a different product, that lifetime license won’t carry over.
Looks like I’m sticking with bootstrap then
