• davel@lemmy.ml
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    21 days ago

    Why would I condemn something that didn’t happen? Previously:

    You can’t bring us evidence because there isn’t any.

    The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

    The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same mapimperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

    Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
    https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330

    #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

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          21 days ago

          Ok, so Poland seems to recognize it and is not in the “core”…

          Turkey seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

          Taiwan seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

          Ukraine seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” … Ukraine actually said that after they did China threatened to limit trade and block scheduled delivery of 500,000 covid vaccine doses.

          Czech Republic seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

          Actually looking at the countries supporting and not supporting it looks like divide is more between democracies and dictatorships.

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            21 days ago

            Why do you think post-Warsaw Pact states like Poland, the Czech Republic, and Ukraine fall in line with what the ruling classes of the richest countries want? Could it be that these countries became completely dominated by the Western IMF/NATO protection racket upon seceding? Could it be that there’s been a concerted effort since the beginning of the Cold War to create a class of liberal and fascist collaborators in these countries with the explicit purpose of defeating communism? Should it be surprising that they’re anticommunist as a result?

            Taiwan is probably the most obvious one to choose if I wanted an example of a country (allegedly) with a vested interest in making up human rights violations against China.

            And how can you call the side with the US in it democratic?

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              Why are you changing goal posts? Looks like it is more countries than “the core”.

              Ukraine also showed how China pressured everyone to not vote yes.

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                  Oh so when a country with one of the biggest Nazi concentrations claims another is run by Nazis then proceeds to invade it country and tries to exterminate its population that’s ok in your mind?

                  That’s very ahem “non Nazi” way of looking at things.

                  Looks like you aren’t really supporting communism you are just supporting terrorizing people with tanks. The word “tankie” couldn’t be any truer.

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                    20 days ago

                    This is ridiculous, lmao. It was the neo-Nazi Banderite regime in Kiev that was ethnically cleansing Russians, murdering 13,000 civilians over the course of a decade of shelling. Russia went in to support Donetsk and Luhansk at their request. Russia isn’t exterminating anyone.

                    You have a serious problem with believing seemingly every lie the west tells about its adversaries.

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                Ok, the goalposts turned and left us here. What do you want me to say? Looks like Poland, Taiwan, Czechia, Turkey, and Ukraine don’t like China, a phenomenon that I can’t offer an explanation for without being accused of moving the goalposts further.

                If there’s something substantial to what you’re saying (hell you never even made a claim, the original comment in this chain wasn’t even specific about what he believed was or wasn’t true about Uyghurs) it’s on you to bring evidence to the table.

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                  Oh, so because they raise awareness of a genocide happening, it means they don’t like them? It originally started that only a small percentage backs it up. Turns out that percentage is much much bigger.

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                    20 days ago

                    Imperialist states don’t give a rat’s ass about Uyghurs any more than they do about Palestinians.

                    They’re not “raising awareness.” They’re pumping out anti-China propaganda, because China is now their greatest enemy. The cold war never ended.

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                    You haven’t actually substantiated the claim that there’s “a genocide happening.” All you’ve done is show that a handful of countries that are aligned with the West wanted to start a debate about China’s human rights violations.